Romania : Detecting Forgeries.

Now there's something, completely missed the "deci" error.
Not seeing the forest for the trees.

Thanks Collin, gives me chance to check my Scott,
and revisit Gibbons, as far as I recall not mentioned in my simplified
or 1967 specialised. I'll post back.

Goodness me, it has just dawned, the light bulb lit up.
I was thinking this Postage Due was two colours,
I re-read Wadmalatz's comments, the bordering colour
was the oily substance from the printer.
Now it makes sense, it is just a one colour green Postage Due,
watermark small crown Perf 13.5

What an extraordinary stamp example!

So it is SGD41 or 42 (emerald or pale green)
1890-1892
Was in my SG catalogue,
I had been looking for a two colour postage due.

Thanks guys.

Unsure what is meant by an "impressed" watermark,
but this is the one under the postage due,
unlike the blurry wmks of GB or Travancore,
these are lovely to see under fluid, very clear and precise.

ROD-----Here is two of the four types of the 5 parale from my collection .These are genuine.

I see you guys moved on to the Romanian postage dues ,let me see if I can put up examples of the different types .

Do you / have you measured your paper thickness with a micrometer?
or do you go by feel.

rod-----I use indirect light to judge thin or thick paper ,but I have a dozen copies of that set to view at the same time,some are white, some yellow and then decide between wove paper and laid paper. I can break down the types to which stamp in the set is which .
For example the 2 parale yellow is woven paper but the 2 parale orange is laid paper .Hope im not losing anybody on this .WADMALATZ would know more about this variety.

thanks to Wadmalatz ,now I need to break down the types like this ----

Forgery:




Forgery :

Forgery:
Left to Right
1. Balls not on top of fence post
2. Hat bands not attached to hat
3. Hoof does not touch harness



Forgery:


Forgery:


Forgery:


Forgery:


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Genuine :

Forgery: ?

I am calling this one a Type 2 forgery,
The harness is joined to the hoof
The Hat bands are joined.
The Balls on the fence are poorly drawn, if at all.

The Engraver Thevenin ? name is really dodgy. (bottom RHS)

1913 Free Franking stamp,Silistria.

https://www.stampcommunity.org/topi...27278#233941

Romania: 1891
Carol 1 25 years of reign
Stamps postally valid for 3 days.

10th > 12th May 1891
White paper, No Watermark
Sheets of 130
Line perforation, (all perfs 12 & 12.5 are forgeries)

Stamps exist as
1.5b lilac red
1.5b lilac pink
3b light violet
3b pale violet
5b pale green
5b light green
10b brick red
10b brick red/red
15b grey olive
15b Olive brn

varieties exist in 15b and 5b

Forgeries shown in Billigs

Most identifiable forgery indicator is the fleuron design
between ROMANIA and JUBILEUL

These are Genuine stamps with FORGED postmarks

(Stamps from Wadmalatz Romania ...Thank you very much)

Info acknowledgement Romaniastamps.com

He Rod thanks for the info always helpfull to find out that some of my stamps are fake (atleast the horses without touching the harnas). Since it seems that you guys do know alot more about these stamps mind having a look at some stamps I stuffed away? Since I have no clue where to look for and as a west-european collector of pre 1900, just started two years ago im still a youngster of mid 20's but eager to learn, I got all these stamps for European and World collections so I never even touched them and don't even got a catalogue to look them up, so not even sure if they are all from Romania. If you could point out some that are worth looking at I could take some beter pics these are just for inventory use. And the image "optimizer" didn't really made it any beter.

Hi DFO,
you have some interesting issues.

Unfortunately, one cannot approach philately like a scattergun.
If you decide to spend some time with Romania,
then I'd suggest you sort by year first, then work, stamp by stamp
back from the earliest.
You may find your interest more to other countries first.

I am a worldwide collector, but a few countries I spend
time with to study more in depth, Travancore, Egypt, Cuba
and Romania.

You approach you Romania with the assumption all are forgeries
until proven otherwise.
As most specialist collectors,
most countries can and will consume a lifetime of study.

Fortunately with the advent of the internet, it is becoming increasingly easy
to refer to specialist info.

Once you select a stamp to study, you should scan at 600dpi
and refer it to a genuine example.
I do this by "toggling" between two examples

Welcome to SCF and stamp collecting
it can be a lot of fun and rewarding,
you'll get out of it, what you put in.

If you want to scan your issue shown here
at 600 dpi, I'll compare them to my mint genuine issues.
Scan just 1 stamp, and reduce it to 100KB so it will fit on SCF

I'll post more Romania forgeries as I work through them myself...