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China Revenues Liu-Ho Pagoda

 
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Posted 09/29/2012   7:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add ffejy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I'm can't find this one in my book. Any help?

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Posted 09/29/2012   9:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's a revenue stamp, not a postal issue, so you won't find it in the regular catalogues.

These are the characters for 'stamp duty':

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Posted 09/30/2012   08:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DavidR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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I have a few early Japanese that I assume are revenues of some sort, on 1 yen, 1 sen and 10 sen values - does the "EP" type character mean the same there? Thanks in advance...
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Posted 09/30/2012   2:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Trainwreck to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is that an example of sewing machine perforations?
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Posted 09/30/2012   4:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ffejy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Never heard of sewing machine perfs. I hope it makes it more collectible seeing as how I have an entire sheet of 100.
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Posted 09/30/2012   6:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, not sewing machine perfs. Sewing machine perfs are usually very small and not well-formed. You can see on your revenue stamp, the top and bottom perforations are identical (in spacing, breaks, bends...).
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Posted 09/30/2012   8:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
DavidR, I don't collect China or Japan, so you shouldn't take my comments as gospel. However, that character (it means 'print' in both languages) is most likely to indicate revenue use. It's hard to see how it would appear on a normal postage stamp, unless the subject of the stamp was printing.
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Posted 09/30/2012   8:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And here is an excellent example of sewing machine perforations, on this sheet of the 1927 4 Anna stamp of Barwani



(SG 23c; I don't know if Scott distinguish this particular printing)

Note the pin-perf appearance, with holes through the paper, but no paper actually punched out, the slightly irregular gauge (depending on how the paper was fed through the machine) and the irregular corners, where the machinist was simply able to turn the sheet around.

The experiment wasn't a raging success, at Barwani anyway. They perforated two quite small printings this way, before giving it up as a bad go, and reverting to a proper perforating device:



(SG 23b - by far the most common of the 1927 4 Annas stamps)
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Posted 09/30/2012   8:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Trainwreck to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Great examples. Definitely a difference in the quality of the holes.
Robert
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Posted 09/30/2012   8:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For the 1927 4 anna, Scott gives the main number, Sc#17, to the perf 7, thin wove paper, dull orange.

Then, in lieu of sub-entries, there is a note that #17 was also printed in light brown in thick paper, pin-perf 6, and in orange brown on thick paper, rough perf 7.
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Posted 09/30/2012   8:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

It would be helpful, if you would consider changing your thread title to something like..China Revenues Liu-Ho Pagoda.

It assists students to locate information when searching.

Liu-Ho Pagoda

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Posted 10/01/2012   12:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ffejy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to everyone for the education. I need it.
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Posted 10/01/2012   5:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
well done you on the thread rename.

Anyone wanting supplementary info that googles
the Pagoda gets a really in depth link.
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