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German Graf Zeppelin Airmail Issues

 
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Posted 10/04/2012   07:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add PostmasterGS to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
On 20 September 1928, Germany issued its first set of airmail stamps depicting the Graf Zeppelin, L.Z.127, flying over the Earth.



The 2 RM stamp covered the postage for cards sent to America, and the 4 RM stamp covered the cost of covers to the same.

On 26 April 1930, Germany introduced a new special issue for the first South American flight of L.Z. 127. The first South American flight left Friedrichshafen on 15 May 1930, for stops in Sevilla, Recife, Rio de Janeiro, Recife, Lakehurst, Sevilla, and returning to Friedrichshafen.



In May 1931, a new L.Z.127 stamp was introduced at a lower value of 1 RM. This value was primarily used on shorter European flights, or as supplemental postage on longer voyages. It is cataloged by Scott as part of the initial, unoverprinted set, but separately by Michel.



On 10 July 1931, Germany issued another L.Z.127 overprint, this time on the occasion of the L.Z.127's flight to the North Pole. The polar flight left Friedrichshafen on 24 July 1931, with stops in Berlin-Staaken, Leningrad, Franz-Josef-Land, Berlin-Tempelhof, and returning to Friedrichshafen.



And finally, 25 September 1933, Germany issued this set for the 50th ocean crossing of the L.Z.127, this time to the World's Fair in Chicago. The flight departed Friedrichshafen on 14 October 1933, for stops in Recife, Rio de Janeiro, Recife, Miami, Akron, Chicago, Akron, Sevilla, and returning to Friedrichshafen.

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Awesome looking design ! You know I am new at this,,really new at it,but I have learned sooo much in the past few months.One big thing I have come to realize is that the more I look at all these stamps from all over the world,new and used,I really am loving the used stamps much more than the new stamps..the cancells and all that add so much more to the history and have so much more substance ..of course that's just my thaughts..love then ew stamps of course,,but for me I find so much more interest in the used stamps..wonder if other new collectors feel the same?
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Posted 10/04/2012   11:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doug2222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There are also very deceptive facsimiles of these Zeppelin issues; one was discussed only a week ago, the only obvious difference being comb vs. line perforations. So watch out on ebay!
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Posted 10/04/2012   12:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cynical to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
PostmasterGS: great display & thanks for explaining how Scott treats that 1m 1931 issue (Germany Scott#C35).
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Posted 10/04/2012   2:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Beaufiful pictorial essay. Those are some pricey stamps.
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Posted 10/04/2012   11:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mhc99 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I love those German zeppelin stamps. I have many German stamps but none of the zeppelins listed in this thread. Thanks for the info surrounding these issues and I hope to acquire some in the near future.
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Posted 10/05/2012   08:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add malamute67 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I like the stamps of zeppelin,and even though I have none,i follow them in auctions.Now there are these...




ZEPPELIN. 1929 (15-8). GERMANY. FRIEDRICHSHAFEN a ERLANGEN.




ZEPPELIN. 1930. GERMANY. "South America Flight" envelope to Pernambuco, Brazil, franked 4Rm Zeppelin overprinted 'Sudamerikafahrt' tied by Friedrichshafen datestamp.





ZEPPELIN. 1931. GERMANY. "Polar Flight". 'Am Bord' envelope to Straubing franked 2Rm Airship overprinted 'Polar Fahrt' tied by Luftschiff Graf Zeppelin datestamp.
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Posted 10/10/2012   9:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaf72 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes PostmasterGS, thank you for the info! Those are fantastic!
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I come across these two reproductions.

I am planning to auction these two here on SCF, but I am still waiting to have my designation changed to "site supporter" since I donated for a month. They are still nice looking stamps and I see a few on ebay and notice in the title that the word 'reproduction' is in all capital letters. Here are mine:












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Posted 07/07/2014   9:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I only have this one on a post card. Fairly early usage.

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Posted 07/08/2014   1:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add erfoster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stampcrow,

According to Sanabria, the first Zeppelin flight to the U.S. occurred on Oct. 11. It arrived at Lakehurst, N.J., on Oct. 15. I can't read the German postmark, but the New York postmark is Oct. 16. Could that be an arrival postmark?

If so, that card was carried on the first Germany-U.S. Zeppelin flight.

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Posted 07/08/2014   6:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ekbustad to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The 2 Mark stamp did cover the postcard rate via zeppelin to the US, but I thought that all postcards and letters received a marking with "Mit Luftschiff LZ 127 befördert" in an oval. This postcard seems to only have a written note at the bottom.

Michel published an English language version of their specialized zeppelin catalog in 2003, it would be worth getting a copy if you are going to be collecting many such covers.
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Posted 07/08/2014   7:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hmm. I suppose it might be first flight, erfoster. Or something smashed together...ie fake. I snatched it up because I liked the stamp. It has good centering and nice color.

ekbusted, The oval is very very light. Probably useless for identification purposes. It's right over the word Fraulein.

The other odd issue is it's addressed to Milwaukee, Wis. There is no post mark on it for Milwaukee.
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Posted 07/09/2014   09:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is an attempted close up of what should be the blue oval.

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Posted 07/13/2014   12:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is there anyone here that can translate German to English for me. Thought, if we could read the writing on my postcard, we might determine if it's actually first flight.
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Posted 12/15/2016   2:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add itviking to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Old post, but for the record....

"Stampcrow,

According to Sanabria, the first Zeppelin flight to the U.S. occurred on Oct. 11. It arrived at Lakehurst, N.J., on Oct. 15. I can't read the German postmark, but the New York postmark is Oct. 16. Could that be an arrival postmark?

If so, that card was carried on the first Germany-U.S. Zeppelin flight."


er foster - Stampcrow's zep mail is from the lz127 (Graf Zeppelin) first flight to North America in Oct 1928. But the very first trans-Atlantic Zeppelin flight was by lz126 (ZR-3 aka Los Angeles) exactly four years earlier in Oct 1924. Both flights commanded by Hugo Eckener.
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