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Posted 12/19/2012   5:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add same to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello to all ..
Stamps strange, Does anyone have information about it?







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Posted 12/19/2012   5:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
same , where do find all all this stuff ?
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Lombardy-Venetia #1b, worth a fair amount of money if genuine. L-V is cataloged in Scott at the end of Austria, Volume I.

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I meant the second stamp; the first is Austria #1. No surprise that they're on different papers.
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Edited by doug2222 - 12/19/2012 7:58 pm
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Posted 12/19/2012   7:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add same to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Dear
I meant that the paper type is different, as well as printing
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Posted 12/19/2012   8:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nitrolures to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Same you have some great stuff- I'm no help on this one but also wanted to pass along my best wishes for your health concerns. Please keep showing us your collection.
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Posted 12/19/2012   10:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jimjamtwo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There are two versions of the Austrian issue, the first on handmade paper and the second, issued several years later, on machine-made paper. For an introduction to this issue, see:

http://www.stamp-collecting-world.c...re_arms.html
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Posted 12/21/2012   4:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add danko to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Really hard to make out details on your stamp. Here's a picture of mine, what I believe a Scott #1c (brown orange), but don't take my word on that.

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Posted 12/21/2012   6:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doug2222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And presumably cancelled at Pest, Hungary, which later linked up with Buda (across the Danube) to become Budapest, in 1873, which helps date your stamp.
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Further than that it`s a `PESTH` single circle day-month postmark. Note the `H`- after 1867 officialy became `Pest` without the H, denoting that hungarian became official language after the reconciliation. There are two types of ornamented day-month pmks. used in Pesth, according Gudlin`s Postmark Catalogue(hard to tell which one is this):
E 2.8 - used bw. 1853-1858
E 2.11 - used bw. 1858-1862.
Here are the postal rates in Austria, from 1850 to 1866:
printed matters(probably official)- 1 KREUZER
local letters - 2 KREUZER
up to 10 miles (cca. 75 km)- 3 KREUZER
bw. 10 -20 mile - 6 KREUZER
more than 20 mile - 9 KREUZER.
The first Austrian issue covered these rates - of course in 1851 appeared the newapaper stamps also (Mercur-head).
In 1858 there was introduced the registration fee (initially the stamps covering the registration fee had to be affixed at the backside of cover) - registration fee from 1858 to 1866:
local registered - 3 or 5 KREUZER
to other location - 10 KREUZER - so in 1858 second Austrian set appeared (note the 5, 10 and 15 KREUZER denonminations, made necessary by the registration fees).
From 1866 postal rates changed.

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Posted 12/22/2012   4:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add danko to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, little stamp - big history. That is the beauty of the stamps.

Gentlemen, thank you very much for this information. Made me go through my Austrian stamps again .

BTW, I have a hard time distinguishing between hand made paper stamps and machine made paper stamps (maybe this is because I do not have any machine made once ). But anyhow, my Scott catalog said that all the machine made paper stamps are Type III, which have two thinner lines around the center. Well, I looked through my stamps that I thought are on machine made paper, as well as some stamps on ebay that are identified as machine made, and I do not see two lines anywhere.

The bottom line , does anyone have this Type III stamp to show the lines?
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