East Saxony - Soviet Zone: Litho Vs Photo

I recently picked up a wad of lovely East Saxony (under Soviet occupation) stamps, and found these two 4pf which look completely different. Scot says the majority of them are are photogravure, except the 3pf and 6pf which are lithographed.

However, I have two 4pf which are completely different, the left looks photogravure, and the right looks lithographed.

I do have the Michel specialized, but have problems translating

Does this stamp exist in two printing states?

I don't know anything about these other than what I can glean from Michel, so take this with a grain of salt.

You could have a Michel 53 and 61. The 61 has a different, whiter paper. They were both printed using the same method, though.

There some photos of both on the German eBay. Search for 53 or 61.

Thanks PMGS. I will investigate.

I do not have the answer, but some of my stamps.




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Here are my copies of Michel 53 and 61. Postmaster is correct on the paper difference. The 53 is brownish paper and the 61 is almost white. Your bottom stamp sure looks odd to me. Maybe an under inked 61?

Your stamp on white paper looks like a computer printed forgery.

Thanks for showing you 4pf, Danstamps. Mine does have that inkjet look, but the ink in not water soluable, I tested it. The cancel is definitely a handstamp.

Here are some duplicates,unless the above stamp is from some second or third issue printing ,I have to think its a copy made after the fact it was issued .

Duplicates. I don't have any of those Floortrader! What do you want for them?

(Caveat: My German isn't all that good so I may stand corrected). On p.149 of my 2009 Michel Spezial, there is a note on Plattenfehler (plate flaws). The gist of the comment is that because of the conditions in post-war Germany, these stamps have so many plate flaws that only the most conspicuous (auffällig) and most expensive (preislich) are listed. One could probably extend that to inking as well.
The Mi 61 is not a scarce or rare stamp (CV 0.40 Euros MNH) so I don't see why it would be forged. Now, there are some variations of Mi 53 that are through the roof! The white paper, however, essentially rules out that possibility.
I would still go with an under-inked variety.

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