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Canadian Stamp Dealers On Ebay USA

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Posted 02/24/2013   09:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add philb to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Can someone please clarify the situation for me..i hear a horror story that a small Canadian approval dealer I know can no longer sell on ebay USA and yet the Lingens are alive and well. What can be the truth ?
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Posted 02/24/2013   10:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lorddenning to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Your post is very irresponsible and should be removed.

You don't name the victim of the "horror story" you heard about, yet you name another party who has a stirling reputation.

If you know the dealer why don't you ask him. He can give you information about his specific problem with eeBay.

Please remove your post.

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Edited by lorddenning - 02/24/2013 10:04 am
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Posted 02/24/2013   10:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doug2222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Considering that it's all a matter of public record, I see nothing irresponsible about the post. On the other hand, there's NOTHING anyone here can do about it, so why worry?

Philb, or any of us, can find that "small dealer's" account on ebay, and if it says something like "no longer a registered seller, etc.," then CASE CLOSED, and we will probably never know the reason why. And no doubt that dealer, no longer on ebay, would welcome the chance to deal with prior customers privately.
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Posted 02/24/2013   10:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Lorddenning..
I see nothing wrong with his post..
To him , it is a horror story, that his small dealer can't sell on ebay USA, while he names another CA dealer as an example of someone who can.

What is your problem?

Stick around long enough and you will know that PhilB, is the last person to post anything offensive.
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Posted 02/24/2013   10:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lorddenning to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Considering that it's all a matter of public record, I see nothing irresponsible about the post.


Doug

Thanks for your post. I didn't realize how easy it would be to find the dealer which philb was writing about. It's so obvious that it is in the public record. What was I thinking? I just assumed that philb was keeping the dealer's name anonymous while naming another dealer who has nothing to do with his complaint. How could I even think that this was irresponsible?

Thanks Doug for your insight. Much appreciated.







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Posted 02/24/2013   10:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lorddenning to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stamvirgin

It is obvious that this is a close knit group. Reminds me of the old ebay stamp forum days. I am obviously an outsider.

If you see nothing wrong in naming a party that is not involved and not naming the "victim" I am wasting my time posting on this forum.

I still maintain that the post was irresponsible, regardless of who posted it.

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Posted 02/24/2013   11:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Whats going on ? I just am looking for an answer on ebays policy on Canadian stamp dealers. For the Lords information we buy from Lingens all the time !
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Posted 02/24/2013   12:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Katchem_ash to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What was this whole kefluffal about?
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Posted 02/24/2013   12:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TinMan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is nothing wrong with the post. I was reading not too long ago. I believe it was an article in the APS issue, maybe November or Decemeber issue about these kind of people. Sellers who are kicked off ebay for various reasons and the article stated they lay low for a few months and then come back under a different name. It's a losing and continuious battle for ebay. Philb just asked a question? He didn't make a statement. Your right this is a close knit group/Family. That's why it's properly named "SCF".
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Edited by TinMan - 02/24/2013 12:40 pm
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Posted 02/24/2013   12:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cursus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm happy to read that this is a close knit group. I always find support and friendship here, and see no reason why Phil's post should be removed.
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Posted 02/24/2013   2:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I see nothing wrong asking this question.

We should be able to ask these questions prefessionally and expect to get a professional answer (to the best of everyone's ability)

ebay is constantly changing their policies all the time and it is almost impossible to keep track of them.

I do know that some of the small dealers are finding it harder & harder to maintain a store or to list items because of ebay's policy to continually increase fees. Roy Lingen, on the other hand, is probably large enough that maybe it is still profitable for him to continue with ebay. This of course is just a wild guess.

Chimo

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Posted 02/24/2013   2:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nitrolures to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I follow a few somewhat larger canadian sellers with an average of 20+ pages of items. What I have noticed is less and less auctions and more buy it now only. Granted the material is either of higher value or the groupings made larger to make a $25-50 minimum sale. ebay killed alot of brick and mortar stores but at 20-25% fees they may help rebuild a few along the way.
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Posted 02/24/2013   2:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lorddenning to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Folks

You are missing the point! My objection was not about asking about eeBay. It was the fact that a reputable dealer's name was unnecessarily included which could be taken that special treatment had been accorded to that vendor by eeBay. The post did not require the reference to the named vendor. The poster could easily have written:

"I note that larger Canadian vendors are still on US eebay"

Either you get it or you don't. I suspect that some of you understand exactly what my point was but are getting a few kicks in just for the heck of it.

The fact that the poster buys from the named vendor is irrelevant. There was absolutely no need to mention the vendor.

You may all be wondering why this is a concern of mine. The internet is full of inadvertent and deliberate hurtful comments about others. Some comments can harm business reputations, others can destroy lives.
The original poster did not deliberately set out to single out a vendor who had nothing to do with his eeBay complaint. But it was an easy thing to do. The poster referred to a "horror story" without providing any details. Those are strong words particularly when juxtaposed with those of an innocent vendor.

Freedom of speech has limits. I am concerned about its misuse. The fact that so many of you see nothing wrong with the identification of the dealer saddens me. So in a nutshell that's my problem.
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Posted 02/24/2013   3:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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There was absolutely no need to mention the vendor.



I have to agree because when I first read philb's post
I felt that the Lingens did something wrong and this cast them in negative light.

I don't know the Lingens from Adam but now because of this I see that they are the same people whose site BuckaCover I have checked in a few times in the past.
A wealth of interesting covers and unbelievable cheap prices.

At the very least philb should have mentioned his so called small Canadian approval dealer I know or mentioned no one.





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Posted 02/24/2013   3:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Katchem_ash to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think lorddenning is someone who is closely related to the seller or is the seller himself/herself trying to "protect" whatever reputation they have left. Otherwise he/she would not make such a large protest.

And no, freedom of speech has no limits. If it did it won't be "free speech". Suck it up lorddenning.
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Edited by Katchem_ash - 02/24/2013 3:20 pm
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Posted 02/24/2013   3:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Katchem_ash said:


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I think lorddenning is someone who is closely related to the seller or is the seller himself/herself trying to "protect" whatever reputation they have left. Otherwise he/she would not make such a large protest.


Oh, you think.
Do you know this for a fact?
How can you make such a statement?


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And no, freedom of speech has no limits. If it did it won't be "free speech"


Wrong again there are limits to what you can and cannot say in a civilized society.
Look up the word libel.
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