Are Postal Labels Cinderellas?

I keep coming across these, with and without their accompanying stamps. It seems a lot of the Eastern European countries (ie Communist) liked to produce them.
I don't collect the countries they come with, but do I save the tabs in my cinderella collection?



What do you expert cindy collectors do? (I still consider myself a newbie )

The three-in-one kind of thing, the triptych, is enjoyable, if nothing else.

I am assuming that since you have a separate cinderella collection you are actually asking: Would these labels be accepted in the Cinderella section of a competition? I am sure the answer is yes; but what worries me is that you say you have some of the tabs disconnected from the stamps. Whilst disconnected tabs would not be disqualified from a Cinderella competition, I think they would be very heavily marked down, since judges would expect to see them se tenant with(at least one of)the appropriate stamps, unless that particular tab were to be exceptionally rare.

I am not a philatelic judge,and I am open to correction from anyone who is.

Bamra1 said:




Are there "Cinderella" competitions out there (like Philatelic shows)??

Could you please provide some links??

As, I'm really interested to see other collectors' Cinderella collections & learn from them ...


Cheers

Thanks Bamra, but I'm not concerned with exhibiting these. Though like james, I would certainly be interested in seeing one.

I was just wondering where these would fall in terms of the definition of a cinderella. And I guess technically they would qualify since, despite being created by the postal authority and being attached to the stamp, they are not postage stamps themselves.

Guess it really come down to you can collect what ever you want. Perhaps a label in the cindy book explaining what they are.

The following comes from page 59 of the American Philatelic Society "Manual of Philatelic Judging,"6th Edition

http://stamps.org/userfiles/file/ju...ngManual.pdf

Cinderella Division Exhibits

Cinderella Exhibit

A Cinderella exhibit is composed of items unrelated to the movement of the mail through
either a nationally or locally recognized postal system. Also excluded are items related to a
governmental service or fee paid by a series of imprints or stamps, e.g., revenue and telegraphic
issues.

Compositional Elements

Cinderella material includes, but is not limited to, bogus and phantom issues, forgeries and reprints not intimately tied into the imitated traditional material, charity labels, poster stamps, registration labels and airmail etiquettes when not tied into a postal division story and promotional labels for commercial enterprises or special events.

As implied above, when appropriately tied into a postal division subject that is either not
predominantly reprint or forgery related or focused on the etiquettes as a subsidiary aspect of an overall postal history or aerophilately exhibit, these items should be judged under their relevant areas of focus.

All aspects of these elements are part of their story. Their inclusion is expected within a
Cinderella exhibit to more fully develop the story, show depth of study and elicit interest in the subject. Such items as promotional material for an exhibition, publicity mailing for charity seals and usages on commercial mail are all parts of many Cinderella exhibit subjects.


I would not consider any element on a post office sheet of postage stamps to be a cinderella item.

Thank you SO much, lorddenning


Cheers

Lorddenning: Thank you for the information. Since I have been considering a Cinderella entry based on Yugoslav sheet-centre vignettes, I'll speak to a British judge and see if he concurs.

James: There certainly are cinderella competitions but I'm afraid they are Real Life rather than Virtual so I can't really send you links.

Most philatelic societies in UK, at both local and regional levels, have annual competitions (the former usually acting as a qualifier for entry in the latter). These are divided into a number of different sections e.g. General Philately, Postal History, Aerophily, Thematic, Social Philately, Cinderella, Junior. Not every society would have a Cinderella section, but most do.

To illustrate what I mean, I'll try to scan one or two of my old entries, to give you an idea of what I'm talking about. But it probably won't be till next week.

We could have one here !

I just scraped third place with a Cindy entry in an online Competition. My Certificate just arrived ! It was fun.

Let's think about it.

Londonbus1

Hi Londonbus1

If you are going to have a Cinderella exhibition here, just save space and give Rodney the "medal". From what I understand he is big on Cinderellas.

Jerry B

Oh, I think Rod could be given quite the run for his money by several cinderella collectors on this forum, including the Bus. We has (HAS??? have!) many knowledgeable and, shall we say, well stocked Cinderfellas here. It would be a real clash of the Titans!
I'd love to see it.

Hi jamesw

I stand corrected. I honestly thought Cinderella collectors were a minority.

Jerry B

How interesting.

Those who collect only cinderellas will be in the minority. But bear in mind that most people who collect a country seriously will have an interest in at least some cinderella aspects of that country.

I collect Yugoslavia. I have serious collections of Yugoslav TB labels, Yugoslav political labels, and also Yugoslav etiquettes (though to return to lorddenning's contribution, I tend to regard them within the 'area of focus' of Postal History).

In addition I have desultory accumulations of Yugoslav vignettes and revenues along with a few perfins, specimens and forgeries/fakes which could go on to become serious collections at some point.

I would never describe myself, on that account, as a Cinderella Collector; but I certainly enter cinderella competitions from time to time.

For the benefit of James who asked to see some examples of Cinderella competition entries, here are a couple of my entries for the local 9 page competition.

Removed to thread Display of Cinderellas at request of Londonbus1

Bamra,

Can you put these in a thread of their own.
I'd like to discuss them but don't want to interfere with this topic further.

Many thanks

Londonbus1