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 Can anyone Id these I assume they are BOB but my reference material is limited in this area. Thanks for any help
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rick l APS# 214326, I.S.G.C.# 979 |
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You won't find them in Scott. A note after Scott #135 says, in part: "...after July 1, 1895, stamps inscribed Escuelas or Instruccion were no longer available for postage..." |
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 Ucollector! Hope you enjoy your stay! Just wait awhile and someone will need help! |
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Doug
Thanks I have an older Scott's I'll take a look there I wonder how collectible they are since they were not used for postage or at least discontinued |
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Actually, they were listed in the Scott catalog many many years ago. If you are wondering why there is a gap in the Scott catalog for Venezuela #237-244, you just found a few of those stamps!
Originally a part of a set of 8 (5,10,25,50c and 1,3,10,20b), they do exist postally used as well as on-cover. I believe they are still listed in Stanley-Gibbons.
There is a footnote in the older Scott catalogs "a large lot of unused remainders of the above set is likely to come upon the market at any time". Since Scott still lists other similar Venezuelan stamps that were demonetized, I suspect the editor removed the listings for reasons other than "not valid for postage", and simply used that as an excuse.
I see no reason why you should let Scott decide what stamp is collectible and what is not.
In the older Scott catalogs, your stamps were originally Venezuela #242, 240, 239, and 237, respectively. |
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OK, I checked the other catalogs for you.
The set is listed in Stanley-Gibbons as #317-324.
In Michel, under the Stempelmarken section as #90-97. |
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Hi From:
Minkus 1980 Latin America
Blanco 1992 Venezuela Specialized
Stanley Gibbons Part 20 (South America)
Issued July 1904
American Banknote Company
Engraved
Perf 12
Note: Values are Minkus 1980 x 5 to bring value in
line with Scott minimum of .25
Minkus Gibbons Blanco Yvert Michel Mint Used
R122 317 108 100 90 5c green .25 .25
R123 318 109 101 91 10c gray .25 .25
R124 319 110 102 92 25c vermilion .25 .25
R125 320 111 103 93 50c yellow .25 .25
R126 321 112 104 94 1b claret 5.00 .75
R127 322 113 105 95 3b blue .25 .25
R128 323 114 106 96 10b violet 1.00 2.00
R129 324 115 107 97 20b rose 2.50 2.00Jerry B |
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KHJ and Jerry as well as everyone else thanks so much as always I am amazed at the knowledge that is available in this community with everyone's individual areas or expertise ! I will now have to search for the rest of the set of course :) |
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rick l APS# 214326, I.S.G.C.# 979 |
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After 1876 two sets of stamps to prepay postage are used side by side, the "Correo" (Post), or "Correos" (Posts), and the "Escuelas" (Schools), altered lately into "Instruccion" (Education). Some authorities declare the latter labels to be revenue stamps which may be used for postage like some of the Australian fiscals; others again say that stamps of the "Correos" class are used for Foreign postage, the proceeds of their sale going to the Post Office Department, while the "Escuelas" and "Instruccion" stamps are set apart for Inland postage, the revenue arising from their sale being handed over to the minister of education for the maintenance of the State Schools. It is strange that in spite of prolonged researches no official decree could be placed before us to prove that those stamps were used exclusively for Inland postal service as is presumed by many philatelists. Also see: https://goscf.com/t/9059 |
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All the postings above and all the links that you read about those stamps are only half the story and really don't explain how they got into the philatelic market . What you read here is why they were made and the purpose,they originally were issued to benefit education/schools . But what happen ? They were then used by the government to pay postal employees,they were short money ,which the employees soon found out that they can sell to exporters who sold them to stamp dealers in Europe..........thats the real story ........it is buried in the records of the APS LIBRARY ,and researched by Neil K. of the library staff,I have photos of the pages he mailed me on the subject somewhere . |
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That explains the footnote in the 1916 Scott catalog that I mentioned above. Quote: There is a footnote in the older Scott catalogs "a large lot of unused remainders of the above set is likely to come upon the market at any time". Thanks floortrader! |
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