Bavaria--Questions And ID

I have recently acquired an old (1922) Lightpost German States Specialty album with lots of stamps in it. Of course all the headings, etc. are in German. The Scott catalog does not seem to go into as much detail as this old album does. Perhaps someone with a Michal Specialty Catalog can help. I need some help in interpreting some of the headings in the Bavaria section as well as some specific ID information.

1) For the Prince Regent Luitpold issues (1911) the album has pages for "Type I" and "Type II". What is the difference between the two types?

2) For the King Ludwig III issues the album has 2 separate pages for the Perforated issues. Page 1 is titled "Friedensausgabe (Erstdrucke)" and page 2 says "Kriegsausgabe". What do these terms mean and how do I tell them apart?

3) There is a page titled "Halbamtliche Luftpostmarke 1912" I assume this is an early airmail issue, but it is not listed in the Scott Catalog. It says "LUFTPOST" above a dragon with the letters ABEC inside a circle formed by the dragons tail and 25 PF at the bottom.
What is this issue and why doesn't Scott list it?

4) I have two copies of O6. One is Brown and the other is a real Dark Brown. Are these two different stamps or just shade variations? Scott only lists Bister Brown.

Thanks in advance for any help.

It is a semi-official airmail stamp issued by the Bavarian Aeroclub around Oct 1912. Scott normally does not list semi-official stamps in their standard WW catalog, and only some in the Classic Specialized. My Classic Specialized is 2007, and it is not listed in that edition. Maybe in later editions?

My 2005 Michel only lists a "dark orange brown", so it is probably just an inking issue. Michel does lists 3 paper varieties.

These would correspond to the peace-time (first) and war-time printings. These are mentioned and described in the Scott Classic Specialized. The stamps listed in the Scott Standard WW are the war-time varieties.

There are actually 3 types listed in Michel. The differences are primarily in the lettering in the top/bottom panels. My German is not good. Hopefully someone else can chime in and provide the details.

The Bayern semi-official airmail is listed in the Michel-Spezial, in the "Altdeutschland (Bayern) section. In 1997, it was DM600 MH; DM1100 MNH; and DM1000 Used. Forgeries exist, most often from reperforated cuttings from similar postal stationery.

Used price shown is for "Munchen" cancel (Munich) - Nurnberg cancel is worth double.

1. There are three types listed in Michel.



2. There are peace printings and war printings.



3. That is a semi-postal airmail.



4. As stated above, Michel only lists one color, but does note that shades exists.

If you need help translating any of the above, just let me know.

"3. That is a semi-postal airmail."

Not a semi-postal airmail, but a semi-official airmail, tolerated by the German postal authorities. There were at least 20 other issues between 1912 and 1933.

Oops. I knew that! Typing while watching TV is a bad idea.

A BIG thanks for all who helped me with my Bavaria questions, especially PostmasterGS for posting the images. Between the images and Google Translate I think I can figure it all out.

Actually, my 2006 Michel lists a Type IV for the Luitpold issue. Letters like Type II,
but much heavier type. This type is only for the Pfennig values.

PostmasterGS--I appreciate the images you posted from the Michel catalog. They help a lot, but I am still having trouble sorting these Bavaria stamps out. Would it be possible for you to scan the entire Bavaria section and send it to me as either a PDF or as JPG's. If you can help, please send to *** NOT PERMITTED *** Thanks.

May I suggest that you consider buying a used Michel catalog instead? They aren't that difficult to find in the US, and you will invariably need additional information as you continue with your Lightpost German States Specialty Album.

You probably want to have a used Michel Specialized, anyway, because information has been dropped from the catalogue over the years.

I plan on replacing my more-recent versions every several years, but I will keep a one-volume 1995 edition around forever (or until the deleted information is restored).

Also, for completely separate reasons, I don't think it is a good idea to discuss copying and posting or distributing entire sections of a catalogue that is still in production. Other people may have a different opinion on this point, so I won't belabor it...

My 2d. 2pf.

Good luck with the album. Sounds like fun.

Agreed; I will never discard my 1997 1-volume Michel either, even though the Index is in microscopic letters. I bought the new 1945-2012 some months ago.

Thanks to PostmasterGS for the Michel catalogue type descriptions. Here are three 5pf stamps I have in my collection. The first one seems to be Type I (not in good condition), the second is what I consider the 'normal' stamp listed in Scott's catalogue and I think it is Type II. The one that has me puzzled is the third one which is either Type II or III but printed on dark bluish green paper. Can anyone help with the paper variety?