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New Zealand
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Posted 06/25/2013   12:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add tommy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I would like to get any information about this unusual "sand dollar" like cancel.

Its on Newfoundland #21 from 1861-2 but the cancel type does not appear in my Newfoundland Specialized Stamp Catalogue.

Cheers

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United States
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Posted 06/25/2013   12:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks to be a representation of the Union Jack . . the combination of St. Andrew's Cross and St. George's Cross.
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Edited by smauggie - 06/25/2013 12:37 am
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United Kingdom
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Posted 06/25/2013   03:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Terence Collins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is also the Cross of St Patrick on the Union Flag (the red cross saltire), but I think that cancel is called a sand dollar after the somewhat unlovely creature it resembles - one on post "Newfoundland Stamps 17-23 from 1861" along with a whole page of lovely early Newfoundland.

Terry

Edited to add image. TC.



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Edited by Terence Collins - 06/25/2013 03:33 am
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Canada
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Posted 06/25/2013   08:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add therealwesty to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like an old hand made cork style cancel, and probably was intended to represent the union flag. This style of cancel is often referred to as a fancy cancel and was pretty common on 19th century issues from Canada and the other provinces.

Edit: Should add that they come in many different designs, basically anything you could imagine carving into the bottom of a cork.
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Edited by therealwesty - 06/25/2013 08:38 am
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New Zealand
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Posted 06/25/2013   12:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tommy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Helpful--thank you. So a cork made cancel--either inspired by Union Jack (cool connection) or a sand dollar (nice image!).

Does anybody know of a website or physical book that would have hard data on the types of cork cancels??

I'm thinking of something akin to Ludlow' RPO book on Canadian cancels.

(I was also the poster of this stamp on the other thread by the way)
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Canada
528 Posts
Posted 06/25/2013   3:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamporator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Tommy,

This link does not provide information on your particular cork cancel design, but it does provide more information on these cork cancels, which come under the description "Fancy Cancels".

http://www.canadianpsgb.org.uk/fancy_cancels.html

And here is a website that list various publications on these types of cancels:

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/...rbdhou5sk410

- stamporator -
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Edited by stamporator - 06/25/2013 3:43 pm
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Netherlands
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Posted 11/27/2015   06:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add remco mouthaan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Found this topic, and wanted to ask if someone might know a bit more on these nice red cancels?





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Netherlands
154 Posts
Posted 12/14/2015   4:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add remco mouthaan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sadly nothing on the canadian war tax stamp.

But found another nice one.



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United States
8956 Posts
Posted 12/14/2015   5:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Remco, that is a very nice one! I believe it is an overprint, privately applied from maybe a lawyers office or a bank. I hope one of the revenue collectors will ring in and let us know something more!

Peter
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United States
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Posted 12/14/2015   7:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The overprint is the J. Elwood Lee Co. They are fairly common, I even have 1 or 2.
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Netherlands
154 Posts
Posted 12/15/2015   03:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add remco mouthaan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And I assume you do not collect revenue stamps?
Otherwise it would be an larger number..

I will try to find some more info with the details given. Thanks again!

Remco
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