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Maluku Selatan Stamps-Have A Question

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Posted 12/22/2008   03:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jan-Simon to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The South Moluccas stamps were unsucessful but released by dealers.

What I understand from the Wikipedia information is that most of these "stamps" were ordered by a stampdealer in order to be sold to collectors. It sounds plausible to me because I think it is very unlikely that a wannabe country in the third world needs 150 different stamps in huge quantities. Stamps that, very conveniently also have nice thematic designs...

According to info I found here: http://www.economy-point.org/m/malu...-stamps.html there are at least two groups of stamps from Maluku Selatan. Those ordered by the government in exile, and those ordered by the New York stampdealer Stolow.
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Posted 12/22/2008   08:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bobgggg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Larry...how dare you steal my picture I believe that stamp
is now a part of T-360's collection
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A Philatelic mind
is a terrible thing to waste
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Posted 12/22/2008   09:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add modern_who to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bob, yes I remember. You wouldn't happen to have another
since you lived so close by? (If I had one I wouldn't have
to steal your photo!)
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Posted 12/31/2008   12:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I was breaking down a collection last weekend that was housed in a Minkus Aristocrat album. Believe it or not, Minkus had a section for South Moluccas.


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Posted 12/31/2008   12:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add David Giles to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I was breaking down a collection last weekend that was housed in a Minkus Aristocrat album. Believe it or not, Minkus had a section for South Moluccas.


Winnipegger:

I'm not surprised. The Minkus International albums were always a more detailed album than Scott's International albums. That said, I've seen some Minkus year supplements, which had spaces for all kinds of stamps from the sand dunes. The idea behind that, was those CTO'd stamps were cheap and plentiful and many children could afford those colourful stamps and put them in their album.

This gave Minkus a valid reason for people to keep buying their supplements, you could fill up a few pages!

I wonder if the same thinking applied to the pages you saw for the South Moluccas?

David the Ottawan
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Posted 12/31/2008   12:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As a Cinderella collector, I have these colourful thematics in my Fantasy/Bogus album.

Londonbus1.....after all, that's what they are.
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Posted 12/31/2008   4:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add David Giles to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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one of my brother in laws was an engineer on the Dutch KPM lines at time..they got tired of having people taking pot shots at them and pulled out..


Phil:

When you're in Ottawa, again, ask Nani about her father in the war of Independence. I think she said he got jailed by the Dutch for fighting back. Too bad he died a few years ago... I'd have loved to hear about his days in the Indonesian Revolutionary Army.

David
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Posted 01/02/2009   11:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nr-notrare to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Album makers often had contracts with foreign countries to supply them with CTO's.......thus they pictured the ones they carried to encourage collectors to fill albums by buying stamps from them. Many countries had contracts with more than one, but some had exclusive contracts. Compare Harris & Minkus foreign albums from the 50's & 60's and it becomes fairly obvious.

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Posted 01/02/2009   11:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rockinrobin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I haven't been on lately, so was happily surprised at the input from all of you. Even though they may not be considered stamps, I still will be buying them as I believe they are interesting. I will also be putting the history of the stamps with them in the album, thanks to all of you!

rockin
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Posted 03/02/2010   09:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Line perfed triangulars:
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Posted 01/11/2011   03:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not sure if it's been brought out in the links in previous posts, but the Republik Maluku Selatan rebels in Maluku Selatan/South Moluccas and the Permesta rebels in nearly Sulawesi Utara/Northern Celebes were being heavily supported by the CIA. When I was travelling on business through the backblocks of Sulawesi Utara in the 1970s, my guide was the son of the former (Muslim) Sultan of the western end of the province, and a pardoned former rebel. He pointed out to me the lake on which the CIA flying boats used to come in regularly with supplies.

I wasn't able to follow up on any philatelic ramifications of this, because talk of the old rebel days was not what my employer wanted to hear. We wanted to talk strictly about cement plants only - nothing contentious, please.
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Posted 01/11/2011   04:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ooh, hexagonal shapes.

Do you think those can be had with 6 triangles in the shape of a hexagon Rod?

Nice history here.
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Posted 01/11/2011   09:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I'd like to break a sheet for ya, Puzz
but it would be breaking the rules of philately. :)
Yep, would make a super hex, only sheet I have ever seen though.

Tony, you should write a book.
Talk about cement? you should have taken him to the
Pyramids.
Crack that recipe and it would be the best advance for man
since the printing press.

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Posted 05/09/2012   7:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add William to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Couldnt the Maluku stamps be considered part of history because of the fact that had the rebels won, those stamps would have been used by the citizens? I wonder what the outcome of Indonesia would have been had the rebels won. Makes you think, Doesn't it?
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Posted 05/09/2012   7:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
William, there were local rebellions going on all over Indonesia at the time. There was a fundamentalist Islamic revolt (sound familiar?) in West Java, which led to fighting around the southern reaches of Jakarta at one point in the 1950s. None of them were ultimately successful, probably because the majority of Indonesians, even in the affected areas, still believed in 'Indonesia', in some form or other. Not utterly unlike the situation in the US after your Civil War.
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