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Russia - Zemstvo - Bogorodsk + Novgorod

 
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Croatia (Local Name: Hrvatska)
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Posted 10/06/2013   11:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add filipo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Can anyone help me to identify this issue? I know something about it, about Zemstvos etc., but don't know details about this one (is it genuine? catalogue (CH?) number etc.).

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Edited by filipo - 10/06/2013 2:50 pm

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Posted 10/06/2013   2:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks vaguely like a 5k 1871 or 1872 issue stamp of indeterminate color... but not enough of it has survived to be accurate Big horseman type I'd hazard a guess at.
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Posted 10/06/2013   2:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add filipo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you. I can make a better scan, if you think that be useful.

I tried to find it out with examples available on-line, but, a very thick upper part of the "5" in the upper right corner didn't appear on the anyone. And also this color is confusing me.

I got this one in a pair with another Zemstvo stamp, but, that one seems to be more common, and on-line is usually represented as Novogorod "CH 2", and also listed as number "2" in all other catalogues.

I will upload it here, too, and I will rename the topic... maybe someone will find the useful for the comparation... although they are pretty bad scanned.


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Posted 10/06/2013   4:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi filipo,

These look like cut-out illustrations to me rather than original stamps although I may be completely wrong about this.

The Bogorodsk stamp appears to be Ch 5 from 1872. According to Artuchov the colour can be any of wine, violet, brown or green rose although it looks very faded. It's given as claret-rose in Chuchin/Barefoot.

The design doesn't show the level of detail that I can see in images from the Fabergé collection.

As you say the Novgorod stamp appears to be Ch 2 but it doesn't appear to have the right spacing in "5.K." or the right shape of the letter "K". The arms look very crude to me especially the supporters.

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Posted 10/06/2013   5:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add filipo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, Nigelc. The Novgorod's is surely not a cut-out illustration, because it has a traces of the gum on back. Maybe I just have made a bad scans... I am not sure. I have used a stamp from this auction for the comparation...



and the back side on it is identical as the one on my stamp:

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