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Can't Find These Booklet Pane/Imperfs In Unitrade?

 
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Posted 01/04/2014   9:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add JR1960 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
As far as I can tell there are no booklet panes listed for #147 and #175, but that appears to be exactly what I have here. Unless they are from vertical imperfs, unlikely given their rarity though.

Can anyone tell me more?



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Posted 01/04/2014   9:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pepere_jack to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
JR1906: I remember seeing a note in a Unitrade catalogue stating that stamps of these years were often released on sheets that were imperforated all around... I just can't find it. If I do, I will tell you the exact text. So what you have are really 147 and 175 but with a strait edge.
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Posted 01/04/2014   11:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Staright edges from earlier issues are from stamps on the edges of panes and where panes met other panes to form sheets of four panes.

Nice copies of stamps and CDS of Vancouver and split ring cancel of ??? ONT. Do you know what that is? I don't recognize it right off.
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Posted 01/04/2014   11:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lorddenning to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thorold, Ontario
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Posted 01/05/2014   01:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you.
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Posted 01/05/2014   08:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JR1960 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah it's Thorold, small town on the south side of St. Catharines ON

How are they typically valued?
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Posted 01/05/2014   09:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There are a few articles on the Canadian Philatelist (by Ernie Wlock). the journal of the Royal Philatelic Society of Canada (see Volume 63, #1, pp 17) that is dedicated to straight edge stamps from the Arch issue, 174, 176 and 177 as well as some from the # 208 era.
There is also a specific section dealing with Admiral Straight edges (see Guide to the Admiral Stamps of Canada by Randall W. Van Someren
http://www.bnaps.org/ore/VanSomeren...ightEdge.htm ) Other articles from the Canadian Philatelist (vol 61 No 4 (pp 207) and No 5 (pp 286)are available on-line on the RSCP web site

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Posted 01/05/2014   11:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lorddenning to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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How are they typically valued?


JR1960

If you go to stamp shows and look through the stock of postal history dealers you will observe that many of the covers are organized by county. County collectors are interested in obtaining the postmarks of all the post offices in that county. County collecting is popular among Ontario philatelists.

This is where you can find information about post offices in Canada:

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/...index-e.html

Why are you so fixated on value? If you are looking at the hobby in terms of dollars then may I suggest you become a dealer. You can purchase large lots at auctions, break them down and sell the stamps and covers on ebay.

http://www.maresch.com

As a dealer you will discover how tricky it is to establish what collectors are willing to pay for your wares.

My approach is quite simple. I collect with little regard for "value". After years of buying covers and stamps I have acquired a sense of what is a reasonable price for me to pay for an item of interest. I suppose it depends on your personality. Without folks who collect money (dealers) it would be a bit more challenging for collectors to obtain stamps and covers.
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Posted 01/05/2014   4:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JR1960 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
lorddenning did you mean to post this in a different thread? This was about my 2 straight edged issues, not covers.

Are you implying there is something lowbrow or base about wanting to know values?

I am downsizing and consolidating my collection and hoping to sell off the extra, with such sales being the sole source of funds for buying new stamps. So yes, when it's time to sell something I am unashamedly fixated on value, or at least RELATIVE value. There is nothing noble about tossing out $100 stamps in the packet of $5 kiloware. At least not for me.



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Posted 01/05/2014   5:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lorddenning to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Based on your posting on this and other threads I made the assumption that you were an novice collector. Please forgive me if my conclusion is incorrect.

My post was meant to assist rather than suggest that there was something crass about knowing what collectors will pay for stamps and covers. Your focus thus far seems to be on "value".



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Yeah it's Thorold, small town on the south side of St. Catharines ON

How are they typically valued?[


I simply explained my philosophy which has served me well for several decades. I did not mean to insult you.
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Edited by lorddenning - 01/05/2014 5:20 pm
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Posted 01/05/2014   7:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JR1960 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nope, your conclusion is correct, I am a relative novice. I know the basics but that's about it. Which is precisely why I've found this forum and posts by members such as yourself so incredibly valuable. The last time I was into collecting there were no such forums; one had to track down a book or local dealer and hope they had the info. Now I can just post a question and have an answer in minutes or hours; it's amazing. I am greatly appreciative of the input from you and others.

I appreciate the effort to assist but I do not understand what you were trying to assist me with. I enjoy the hobby because I love the stamps, the history of them, the sense of looking back in time, and sense of completion and creating order, the never ending hunt... I also happen to be interested in values and the financial side, even when I'm not looking to sell. Maybe I should become a dealer, but I think someone can enjoy the hobby, including the valuation side of it, without having to turn it into a business.


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After years of buying covers and stamps I have acquired a sense of what is a reasonable price for me to pay for an item of interest.


This is exactly what I am trying to acquire by asking about values, only instead of acquiring it only by trial and error, I'm leveraging the experience of the members here!
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Edited by JR1960 - 01/05/2014 7:44 pm
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Posted 01/05/2014   9:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Coriandre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

To me, straight edge stamps like these are less desirable and, if I wanted these stamps, I would seek some that are fully perforated. Postmaks and cancel dates is a whole other aspect and some folks would pay over catalog value for specefic items.
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Posted 01/05/2014   10:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Faken to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi JR,

I, like Coriandre, actually feel these are less desirable and tend to avoid them or will acquire them if the specimen is really XF and at a bargain price. Again, just my taste, but if I'm going to pay a premium price, I would want it fully perforated on all 4 sides.

By the way I think it's always good to be mindful of the financial side... I don't have any plans of becoming a dealer, but it's always nice if you can make yourself some deals to help finance your own collection. My wife certainly prefers it that way ;)
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Posted 01/06/2014   4:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gportch to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi everybody

Don't be too quick to discard all your straight edged stamps. Look, for example, at the Cartier stamp (Scott #208) of 1934. The 2 panes were placed too closely together on the sheet and were separated using a guillotine thereby creating some stamps with a straight edge. This was contrary to the conditions of the contract. Only 50 sheets escaped the guillotine and were perforated and sent to the Philatelic Bureau. These 50 sheets gave rise to the very elusive "wide gutter" variety that can come from no other source. The straight edged stamps are true printing errors. I challenge everybody to find one used - on cover. I have both the right and left side straight edge on cover in my exhibit and assure you that they are tough to find.

More philatelic fun!

GJP
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