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Straits Settlements Overprinted "Saves" ?

 
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Posted 04/04/2014   3:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add LeeLee to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello, unfortunately, I can not upload a picture at the moment, I' m using my Ipad and don't have any apps that can edit the image to comply with the forums restriction on images.

However, I can give a good description of the stamp,it is a straits settlements 1937-41 8c grey SG 283, but is overprinted with the word "SAVES" in large black letters, the whole word is approximately 5mm high and 15mm wide.

I cannot find any reference to this overprint in any catalogue or online, and am wondering if anyone else has seen an example and maybe had better luck with identification.

The overprint seems more accurately placed and darker than most security overprints, but not as well printed as most official overprints, so I really have no idea which it may be.

Any help would be much appreciated, and I'll get a picture uploaded from my PC as soon as I am able.


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Posted 04/04/2014   4:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to Stamp Community Family, LeeLee!

Without seeing the picture, I can only take a wild guess and wonder if it is part of the "USE THE AIRMAIL IT SAVES TIME" slogan postmark. The word "SAVES" is in block letters and is isolated by itself, and is roughly the dimensions you stated. I can only wait for you to upload the pic to confirm or reject the guess.
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Posted 04/04/2014   4:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the forum LeeLee

Are you sure that the overprint is "SAVES" and not "CAVES"?

Some stamps from the Straits Settlements had that overprint that was used by a large book binding and stationary company. They were something on the lines of a 'perfin' stamp and was supposed to serve the same purpose, namely, to prevent pilferage among employees?

CAVES was a big company from there 70 or 80 years ago.

Apart from this proposal, it might be part of a slogan cancel using the word 'saves'. (??) Just a thought.

Chimo

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Posted 04/04/2014   4:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LeeLee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Khj, that's an interesting thought, I should be able to check the stamp for signs of more printing at the edge, and upload a picture in the next half hour.
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Posted 04/04/2014   4:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LeeLee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Bujutsu, it's definately "SAVES",

khj, your right I can see parts of the Ts of "IT" and "TIME" in the stamp margins, I just didn't consider it could be a cancellation, the positioning of it is almost perfectly parallel to the bottom margin.
Excellent deduction, just shows how a knowledge of postmarks can save a lot of confusion.

Here's an image just for reference, in case anyone else is as imperceptive as me.



A bit off topic, but I thought this was going to be another of those mistakes in catalogs that I've been finding recently, including wrong colours stated for a stamp of North Borneo overprinted "LABUAN", and of course Stanley Gibbons classification of chalk surfaced paper, particularly in respects to Straits Settlements "B.M.A" stamps.
SG also fail to list many overprints of European countries.

I suppose it will never happen, but it would be great if some publisher could collate all information in all popular catalogs and combine them into one perfect catalog.
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Posted 04/04/2014   5:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's a slogan cancel.
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Posted 04/04/2014   9:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting. I guess it is part of a slogan cancellation.

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Posted 04/05/2014   01:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for posting the pic.

Definitely part of that slogan cancel. As you noted, on your stamp, you can actually see the tips of the "T" on both sides of the "SAVES", which comes from the slogan phrase "IT SAVES TIME".

I'll try to post a picture of the entire slogan cancel later this weekend.

k
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Posted 05/05/2017   4:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Slogan : "It Saves Time"

Full Slogan:
"It Saves time and Money
Use Air Mails"

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I suppose it will never happen, but it would be great if some publisher could collate all information in all popular catalogs and combine them into one perfect catalog.


This would be a job for a specialist group. Some specialist groups do this. The Malaya Study Group, the only group I knew for this area, did have this as part of their mission.

I collect this area and not aware of the errors but not a specialist. Can you elaborate? Have you looked at stampworld.com. They do not list all the varieties of these issues but at least they have an image for almost everything. I have Scott's and SG for the issues.
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Posted 05/06/2017   07:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Al,
Not sure that LeeLee will see your post, he has not logged back in since 2014.
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