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One Cent Edward Engraver's Slip?

 
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Posted 04/06/2014   12:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Stray Feathers to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have been spending time recently looking at Edward VII definitives, looking for re-entries etc., using Unitrade and the Marler book and Re-entries.com. This stamp has an extra line in the right side of the right numeral box. Seems more like an engraver's slip than a re-entry, but I can't find a reference to it - has anyone else seen one? Or is it just another errant moustache hair . . . ?

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Posted 04/08/2014   3:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 3Dadeo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like an engraver's slip to me also. They are not all documented (probably quite a few out there).
I have found similar ones that are not listed anywhere. Many items have been discovered after Marler wrote his book.
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Posted 04/08/2014   3:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stray Feathers...Have you tried this site..Ralph is an expert on re-entries.

http://www.re-entries.com/
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Posted 04/08/2014   4:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think a bit more than engraver's slip as it looks to extend up the right side a bit further. Can you show another with more of the right side? I'm voting for a Re-Entry ...
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Posted 04/08/2014   5:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 3Dadeo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Could possibly be a re-entry. Would need to see more as Partime suggests. I was looking at the bottom of the numeral box, and it looks doubled.

I think Ralph (re-entries.com) would call this a "twisted re-entry" if it was a re-entry (due to the fact that the line is not parallel).

Looks like an engraver's slip without more info/pics though.
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Posted 04/08/2014   7:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stray Feathers...I am pretty sure you may have a re-entry there..take a look at this page and it is a big page, so go down about 60% and see what I saw...ok

stamp #16...MORE OF YOUR PICTURES ARE NEEDED


http://www.re-entries.com/edwardVII_onecent.html
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Edited by wert - 04/08/2014 7:11 pm
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Posted 04/11/2014   1:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stray Feathers to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for replies on this. The 100 kb limit on image size here is very frustrating. I have reduced things to 72 pixels per inch, 300 pixels on the long side and jpeg compression of 85% and still just barely get in under 100 kb. Anyway, the stamp: It is one of an inexpensive lot of eight I bought on what looks like a circuit book page, and there is a note saying "Re-entries" on the left side (but no mention of that in the listing.) I have found some doubling especially in the bottom of the right numeral box - and I agree there is some evidence of this on this stamp. Also the bottom of the left numeral box. One stamp has minor hairlines, and another stronger hairlines - a bonus. I have spent time on Ralph Trimble's site, have not found an example of this extra line in the right numeral box on a 1c. I don't see evidence of general re-entry as in a twisted re-entry which leads me to think this is what Trimble calls a "retouch" - he shows an example similar to this on a 5c Edward on his definitions page. Partime, you mentioned it going further up on the right. If you are referring to what looks like doubling of the frame line above the maple leaf that is on top of the right numeral box, I believe that is normal. Here is a slightly better image of more of the right side. I think I have learned enough that I think I will send it to Ralph Trimble for a look.

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Posted 04/11/2014   2:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 3Dadeo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A retouch gone askew is just another name for an engraver's slip.

Let us know what Ralph thinks.
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Posted 04/11/2014   5:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stray Feathers...Before we pass it as a "retouch", and since you have not sent any pictures to Ralph, myself I would love to see the whole stamp, especially the corners to see exactly what you have.
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Posted 04/11/2014   7:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stray Feathers to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I had a quick reply from Ralph Trimble. He agrees it is a "slipped retouch". He also added,"On your stamp, the horizontal lines of the spandrel to the left of the RNB are also crudely thickened, as well as those of the LNB on the other side. Even some of the crosshatched lines of the lettering band look retouched. I think some poor apprentice engraver got stuck with this tedious job!" And it's not rare . . . but fun.

Wert asked for an image of the whole stamp:



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