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US Modern Precancel Stamps Used At Rates Over $1

 
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Posted 04/08/2014   8:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wt1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I found this rather odd regulation in current USPS rules regarding the precancelling of postage stamps over $1 in value. Has anyone ever seen a modern example of a stamp used in the manner described?

It sounds as if it is a rollback to the dated precancels used back in the 1940s, yet it would seem rather obscure to see such a thing today and I can't say that I've ever come across a modern example as mentioned here:

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I recall reading regulation 3.6 some months ago. I interpreted it as referring to the total "face-value" of the precanceled stamps being used in a single mailing rather than specifically to high-denomination ($1 or greater) precanceled stamps. But I could easily be wrong.
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JLLebbert, the sentence reads specifically "on a single piece". I have a little experience with this; I tried mailing an APS circuit using precanceled stamps and ran into trouble because the postage was somewhere around $12.00. The only thing that saved me at the time was the fact that my precancel permit is a collectors permit; the clerk's supervisor felt that I did not have to comply with that rule because of that!

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"on a single piece"

Ahah ... piece refers to stamp in this case. I had interpreted "piece" as referring to a unit of mail (package, letter, etc.). Thanks for the clarification.
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Not sure if this qualifies but I received this the other day; it totals over $1. If nothing else it stands as an example of the value of the Zone Improvement Plan since it arrived within 3 days of mailing even with the wrong city address (I live in Hendersonville NC).
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This is essentially the same guidelines that stated the dated Precancel system in 1938! That lead the those everpopular MW overprints for use by Mongomery Wards!
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If precanceled postage on a single piece is more than $1.00, ... .


In my opinion, JLLebbert was correct with his initial interpretation, i.e when the aggregate value of postage on a single piece exceeds $1.00 than the sender's ID and date should be put on the stamps.

An interesting regulation for sure, but it's implementation seems moot to me as what high-volume mailer is going to use precanceled stamps when a printed permit or the so-called "bulk mailing stamps" will suffice? Then too, are precanceled stamps still available? Perhaps, some post offices may still have precanceling devices on hand, I don't know.

It's been years since I've seen a piece of mail using precanceled stamps that was not philatelic in nature. Anyone else seen any? My guess is most contemporary postal clerks wouldn't recognize a precanceled stamp if they saw one.

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An interesting regulation for sure, but it's implementation seems moot to me as what high-volume mailer is going to use precanceled stamps when a printed permit or the so-called "bulk mailing stamps" will suffice?


That was precisely my point. The regulation seems archaic by today's standards, so I wonder why it still exists?

By the same token I have never seen a modern example of someone applying an "overprint" with a date and company initials to a mailpiece with precanceled stamps over $1 in value, as I though that requirement went away decades ago.
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Bulk mailing stamps are modern precancels. In reviewing what is stated in the regulation, it does imply the a lump sum value over $1 should be so oveerprinted. This seems counter productive to be place multuiple number of stamps to meet the standard. However, it also states that the stamps to be ovptd must be on precancel stamps with the added month and user initials. But I've seen no precancel bulk stamp over $1. So multiple stamps are still needed. These stamps are good until the 10th of the following month and unused may not be returned. I guess we will see!
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