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Posted 04/17/2014   2:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Cul_Lector to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
The cover is damaged but it is the stamp I was interested in.



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Posted 04/17/2014   4:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is that an enclosure I see? If so, what does it say?
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Posted 04/17/2014   5:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Unless my eyes deceive me or it is a color changeling... the impressed stamp should be PINK (or Rose to be correct). Perhaps the scorched edge is a clue to the color change? Dated 31st December too which is note-worthy. From 1855 to around 1881 the impressed stamp would have been dated.
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Posted 04/17/2014   6:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cul_Lector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I assumed that this was the natural color.

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Edited by Cul_Lector - 04/17/2014 7:06 pm
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Posted 04/17/2014   7:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm sure it should be Rose colored. Posted on 30th December 1853 from NANPTWICH (olde worlde spelling) in the county of Chester, England to 4 North Great George's Street, DUBLIN with receiving mark dated 31st December 1853.
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Posted 04/17/2014   7:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stamp has the "538" numeral cancel of Nantwich... formerly Namptwich.
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Posted 04/17/2014   7:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cul_Lector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Does the stamp have any value, acotzm?
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Posted 04/17/2014   8:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Normally I'd think around £40 -£140 UK for a cover even in that slightly battered condition. I'm unsure about the color though. The NAMPTWICH postmark would be highly desirable I suspect as would anything with an Irish connection. Research might improve things as well.
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Posted 04/17/2014   10:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cul_Lector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What is the SC # for this, scotzm? btw, I paid a little over $12 US for this. Would it be better for me to leave the stamp there or remove it...
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Edited by Cul_Lector - 04/17/2014 10:11 pm
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Posted 04/18/2014   04:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Research it before you decide. Printed between 1841 and 1854 the "stamp" is part of the envelope and it should be left intact. Cut it out and you cut history and most likely a LOT of value. I do not have a Scott# or a S.G# but there is probably something in Huggins & Baker.
The postmarkings make it a worthy item as well.
Look at the diagonal line in the corner of the envelope. I believe it to be a silk thread which, going by my ancient Bright and Sons catalog, indicates it is a #453 (Bright and Sons cat no) and also it must the DEEP ROSE color.


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Posted 04/18/2014   04:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is there an inverted slug in the CDS or is it just too early for me yet? Looks like an inverted "B" to me?
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Posted 04/18/2014   09:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cul_Lector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You are right, Jeff...What an eye you have for detail...How could I have missed that Thanks, Jeff,scotzm, and smauggie,




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Edited by Cul_Lector - 04/18/2014 09:51 am
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Posted 01/24/2015   9:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mozzerb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is definitely a colour changeling unfortunately -- these are known as "Penny Pinks" and the original colour is a fairly light pink. Even in good condition they tend to sell in the UK at maybe £2-3, often for the postmarks. There are some scarcer variants which sell for more to postal stationery collectors, but this looks like one of the common types.
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