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Large Queen #27 Guide Line Plate Variety

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Posted 06/24/2017   2:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Are you looking for a LQ/SQ color guide?
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Edited by jogil - 06/24/2017 2:34 pm
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Posted 06/26/2017   1:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Email received jogil, thanks.
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Posted 06/26/2017   1:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I sure could use a guide Jogil.

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Posted 06/26/2017   3:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jimjung to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Horace Harrison has a chart on the guidelines of the 2c. He uses the position of the guideline at the lower left margin to determine the plate position. He says that these occur in the 10th horizontal row of the sheet. I believe he is saying that the vertical guideline moves to the right as you move from left to right on the sheet.

Here is the chart:

Distance from "T" Plate Position
3.0 mm. 94 (Fig. 3)
2.66 mm.* 95* (not yet reported)
2.33 mm. 96 (Fig 4)
2.0 mm. 97 (Fig. 5)
1.66 mm. 98* (Fig. 6)
1.33 mm. 99* (Fig. 7)
1.0 mm. 100

* arrived at by deduction

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Posted 06/28/2017   10:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wert: I sent Bee See a link of where to buy it. It is an expensive color guide. Do you want the link?
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Posted 06/29/2017   11:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
can I also get the link?
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Posted 06/30/2017   12:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add area66 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You talk about this book

Color Guide System for Large & Small Queens & Widows Weeds & Registration Stamps of Canada
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Posted 06/30/2017   11:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Gilles le timbre: You'll get the link for it if wert isn't interested in it.
area666: Yes it is that color guide since there are several different ones.
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Posted 06/30/2017   4:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jimjung, based on that chart you show, then mine is not a guidline? Any idea what it is? Also, what is "T plate position"??
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Posted 06/30/2017   7:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Scottamer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
BeeSee, the stamp you show definitely includes a guideline at left with some guide dots. These are very common on the 2c Large Queen. The plate (or possibly one of two plates) used to print this stamp was not cleaned up very well before usage and the number of guidelines that remain on the plate is quite extensive. The image that JimJung shows of a Horace Harrison illustration is referring to additional misplaced guidelines that appear only along the bottom of the sheet. Notice the cross-hair guidelines that appear under the left corner of most of the stamps in the image. These are normal but unerased vertical/horizontal guidelines that appear crossing the guide dots that are used to layout the plate. Notice that figure 4 shows the dot but no guideline going through it. These are examples from the bottom of the sheet showing typical guidelines similar to what is on your stamp. What the illustration is trying to highlight is the additional vertical guidelines that appear further to the right on these stamps. Notice how they appear progressively further to the right on each stamp image. It is the distance between the normal guideline (through the guide dot) and the incorrect guideline that can be used to plate stamps from the bottom row.

The illustration shown by JimJung was part of an excellent series of Large Queen variety articles by Horace Harrison from Maples Leaves in 1961. You can download these as PDF files from the following page: http://www.canadianpsgb.org.uk/mapl...ume%208.html

The article on the 2c is Volume 8, No 12; August 1961, whole number 72. Despite the age of these articles, they contain a surprising amount of little-known information and were the source of much of the variety discussion in the Duckworth's famous Large Queen book from 1986.
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Lead vs Zinc = LEAD (Pb)
I was just 9 yrs old when I was with 2 of my Uncles in my dad's printing-newspaper shop and we melted LEAD on a daily basis.......this is a fun memory, Lead melting at low temperatures for printing duties later on....
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Posted 06/30/2017   9:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Scottamer, that is excellent information and clears it up for me.
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