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Bulding On Bermuda Sc. 185?

 
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Posted 05/27/2014   5:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add DonSellos to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I am drawing a page for Bermuda's QE II historical buildings issue (1962) and my Scott catalog does not identify the building on the 1 shilling, 6 pence stamp, Sc 185, and I don't have that stamp.

Can someone who does have the stamp, or a SG catalog, tell me what building is pictured on it?

Many thanks.

Don
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Posted 05/27/2014   7:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In Gibbons, it appears to be SG 173. The design of the 1/6 is the same as for the 10d, 'Bermuda Cottage, circa 1705'.

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Edited by tonymacg - 05/27/2014 8:00 pm
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Thanks, Tony. Makes sense as in the Scott catalog the 10 pence is out of sequence and appears after the 1 shilling, 3pence. Seems that Scott could have included the 1s/6p in the description for the 10 pence!

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Edited by DonSellos - 05/27/2014 8:08 pm
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Posted 05/30/2014   09:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is what your asking about and the stamps you need to see .

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Floortrader:

Thanks for the images, but something seems amiss here. Tony's response, and my Scott catalog description don't conform to the scans above. My catalog is old (1991) and I am wondering if there has been another stamp added to this series?

More specifically my catalog descriptions for the 5d stamp reads: No. 185A H.M Dockyard which I take to mean that the 5d Sc 179 carries the same image as Sc 185A. My catalog does not include a stamp designated 185A.

The description for the 10p is No. 185, Bermuda Cottage, which after receiving Tony's message I took to mean it is the same as Sc 185 which is The 1 shilling/6 pence.

It difficult to not accept your scans, so what's wrong here? Is the Scott catalog in error with its reference to a Sc 185A and the note that the 10p carries the same image as the 1/6 stamp Sc 185? Has the series been renumbered with another stamp added after my 1991 catalog was published?

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There were new values/designs issued in 1966. Floortrader's 1/6 comes from the 1966 reissues. (In Gibbons, the reissued 1/6 is SG 199.)
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Tony:

Thanks for the explanation. I now see what happened in the Scott catalog. Scott is not very clear about the reissue in 1966-1969. The catalog assigns an alpha suffix to each original catalog number but only notes that the watermark is now sideways with "unnamed colors as in 1962-65 issue." Not a word about the different building scenes for the 1/6. Were the building scenes for the other 1966 reissues changed also?

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Edited by DonSellos - 06/01/2014 08:58 am
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Posted 06/01/2014   8:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don, as my avatar might suggest, I'm not a Bermuda specialist ... However, Gibbons shows the 1966-69 reissues as affecting the 2d, 8d, 10d, 1/-, 1/6 and 2/- values. All had the new watermark, but only the 1/6 had a changed design.

Gibbons also notes the existence of the 5/- with the new sideways watermark. It was from a new printing, supposed to be surcharged 60c on decimalisation, but apparently a few missed the surcharge. Gibbons prices it at £1500 mint, and unpriced used. Worth checking, if you have the 5/-!
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