104 Canidate ?

Thanks everybody on my last post(596 canidate),it's just a 552.

Here is another stamp,I sent it to PSE also,I didn't know I would be posting here and didn't take any other pictures.

This stamp was looked at by Quick ID and all they could do was verify that the red/brown color was correct.

It has what looks like is 75 on it(1875 ?),I cannot read that writing,the flash on the camera is making the paper look yellowish,it is snow white.

So I have 2 problems with it,all the 104 pictures I see the stamp is not perfectly cut but nothing like this,this is terrible.These special printing stamps were made for collectors,what collector back then would want this one cut like that,then add his own glue and mail it.

The other problem is with the 75,I don't even know if it's a 75,I can't read it,it's scribble.

Any help is great,thanks.

more bad news....this is just a #65

That's an off-center 65 with a natural straight edge from the looks of it.

It's common for unscrupulous dealers to sell things or identify them as extremely rare scott #s when in fact they aren't. In 17 years of basically collecting the 24c 1861 (And having looked at thousands and thousands of them) I have found 2, and seen in person about 8 Scott 78c, aka Blackish Violet stamps or covers. In the past 15 years I've seen dozens and dozens on ebay, of those 2 of them had actual certs and were real. As a reference, there's about 3 or 4 78cs in existence for every used 104.

The PF has certified 14 or so Used 104s as genuine. 65s? Heck, if .1% of the number printed survived then there's roughly 1.5 Million in existence.

Going forward, post the stamps here and we can give you an idea if it's the real deal or not, it will save you some $$.

Bill

I must apologize for the poor picture,I had a better picture but it's been deleted after I used it for the Quick ID.

The color in this picture looks orange,it's the correct Red/Brown that the 104's are supposed to be,that's all Quick ID could tell me,they said "Correct red/brown color".

I posted this to see about the fantail and the writing,it really looks like a 75.

Sorry about the picture but it is the correct color.

You may wish to consider using Bill Weiss as a first check on items before sending it to PF or other services--unless you are certain what you have. It will cost you a lot less then sending it to PF for an opinion--IF the item turns out not to be what you feel it is. If Bill agrees, that it is what you think, he can expertise it for an addition fee or you can then send it to another service such as PF if you wish. Something to think about--I do that when I'm not sure what I have.

Hi,I've been using APS,they have the Quick ID service for 5 bucks.

stamp96....well here goes....Im sure to bet plenty bashing.....
BUT....if the APS can not tell you this is a #65...SHAME ON THEM!!
Much easier....to tell you it is NOT a #104. WOW!!

Deciphering and translation of the White tag writing;

Brown Red, What it really means;

I'm a novice collector so when I see 2 listings in a catalog for the same Stamp, 1 for pennies and the other the rarest known to mankind, this must be the one I have. Novices from all countries think like this is how it was explained to me.

On White paper, What it really means;

I read something about the rare stamp being on some kind of paper.....

Cross gutter, What it really means;

Atrociously centered Stamp with scissor cut on 1 side.

Fantail, What it really means;

Sounds like it would be a good Stamp term.

S.C.V. - $6,750.00, What it really means;

There were a total (According to Scott specialized) of 435 of the 104 Stamps printed. There were 1.8 Billion Scott 65's printed but that wouldn't be mine, please pay $6K for this.

stamps96, I know that it's not your writing on the white sticker but you almost have better odds winning the Powerball (1 in 56 million) than finding a Scott #104. You did come to the right place to ask your question as some that have responded have been studying US Stamps for over 20 years.

We all hope that someone will find some philatelic needle in the haystack, but this isn't it.

*EDIT* 3400 posts, I have no life........

like this..have very sharp impression scott #104

and the cancellation is 1880 era

No, no, no and...….not a chance.

I can tell u what different..

1) is the sharp impression
2) the shade on edge of letter "E" and half round shape on top of letter "S" in the U.S

CanThe stamp will surely add one other in the rare used example of the pre 1875 3 cents..But need it certificated first ;))

How much buddy cost to certicate??

cheer man!!

You have a very common, off-center #65 with typical target cancel of the mid 1860s. Worth about $1.

I recommend sending it here for certification.

http://www.philatelicfoundation.org...application/

No wonder you guys were Leary of/stopped short of being mean to me when I first joined. ;)

It only took a few virtual eye rolls (yes I saw u) and my daily chanting of "Assume it's a penny stamp, assume it's a common stamp." and look at me now, all "growd" up.

Mrita75,
The cumulative experience in this community is measured in centuries and centuries. We also have a number of folks who do expertizing for the major organizations.

Nothing wrong with asking ID questions and in fact this is a good way to decide if you should spend money perusing a certification. But we literally have hundreds of threads where someone joins, asks for a ID, and then argue that their ID of a rarity is true and everyone else is clueless. Some get downright abusive and claim they will return with a certification in hand. I do not recall a single time this has actually happened. It does get a bit frustrating so I hope everyone understands.

Many, many misidentified stamps are sitting in albums and collections. Many times family lore and stories are incorrect.

Francis Bacon once said, "The root of all superstition is that men observe when a thing hits, but not when it misses." In other words, the few stories of a person finding a rarity are always remembered but the millions of stories of a stamp being common are forgotten.
Don

Don, I totally, totally get it - I was just trying to be funny, interject a bit of humor :)...I am starting to loosen up a bit - ha ha ( I feel less intimidated) now that I am amongst virtual friends! and that you know that many of us only want to learn.

Also, now being on the site a while, I understand more why it can be frustrating for those of you who are Pillars of this community. I get it now - I also try to learn quickly from my mistakes or over overexuberance.