Argentina 7h Counterfeit?

Any thoughts

Any chance of a higher resolution larger size scan ?

Ah, stallzer I found a thread about this very issue. It talked about reprints and also fakes.
I count 72 pearls. I wonder if this is a Gibbons reprint.

forgery

Album weeds states all values have 81 pearls around the circle.

Care to proffer a reason why it's a forgery? That would certainly help me, and I expect Stampcrow as we'll, get a better handle on this. I have the Serrane Guide, but that still leaves me doubtful.

Stallzer, the site I was reading (I should have copied it or at least remembered it) stated the originals and the Gibbons reprints had 72. Anything else was a forgery.
OBVIOUSLY I could have misunderstood.

I would like to revisit this one. I've used "paint" to mark what I believe is the accent above the U. Am I correct on this. If so, does that make this stamp more likely real?

This is typically what is called a "Lange reprint counterfeit"
The narrow C is the real culprit.
Now having said that I believe there is a genuine variety with a narrow C. Here the C is not only narrow but the bottom part of the C is noticeably small.
The 2 A's together at the top should look the same either pointed or flat on top depending on the issue
There are several other items but the quality does not permit clarification. The overall poor quality is another issue.
Also the"hat" in the inner oval appears to be incorrect - quality too poor to be sure
The # of pearls in the 5c is either 74 or 72 depending on the type.
The 10c has 78, 15c 71.
To complicate matters there is I believe a "Geneva Fake" with 72 pearls but other traits.
I just noticed the thinning of the white oval over the IN - another forgery trait.

I have mentioned this before but I believe just noting that "It's a Fake!" should be supplemented with some reasons. My reasons are there for analysis and comment.

I found a genuine 15c on Cherrystone that can be a reference for some noted items

Great and telling information, thanks. I do, of course see all the items you mentioned. I really like comparing the A's. That seems quite obvious, now that I know.
I'm curious now about the 15c stamp you've posted. I do not see the accent above the U. Is that only a trait with the 5c?

STAMPCROW ,I believe your correct it was made by a major stamp firm {maybe Gibbons} for the packet trade or for their approval business . It is a later dated copy of very poor quality and not really well made and easy to spot .
I found no reason to discuss the differences for a forgery that floats around many beginner collections and in packets .Now the other three forgeries types of this issue are more interesting for comparison .

As a beginner, for me, when identifying any stamp, I believe a few things often come into play. First, never having seen an original. Second, Hopefulness... Third, lack of focus on a specific area of the hobby, that means not having the specific tools needed for the study of a specific issue.

Updated my forgery collection ,used Album Weeds as my reference,with two other reference points .

My 10 centavo fake / forgery







My 5 centavo. I've never verified what it is, I just filed it away as fake due to it's crude printing.

@floortrader:

Where did you get the genuine Type I and Type II information?