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Iberia, Lugo, & Zaragoza - Are They Considered Cinderellas??

 
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Posted 08/13/2014   3:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add mobilman44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi,
In a recent auction win I found an envelope of "Spain" stamps, with quite a few from Iberia, Zaragoza, and three from Lugo (civil war stamps).

May I assume that these were not recognized postage stamps and spaces for them will not be found in a Scotts album?

I'm fairly certain this is the case for Iberia, but until just the other day I didn't know about Zaragoza or Lugo.

Thank you!
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Posted 08/13/2014   7:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kirks to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I can't answer, but some of the CINDY guys were fly in here an illuminate our curiosity
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Posted 08/13/2014   8:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 08/13/2014   8:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As far as Zaragoza stamps are concerned, this is taken from a Linn's Stamp News reference:


Quote:
Zaragoza (1937)
Stamp-issuing status: inactive. A province of northern Spain. The Nationalist authorities overprinted contemporary Spanish issues for use in Zaragoza in 1937. Through the late 1940s, a number of large, colorful charity stamps were issued in Zaragoza. Although inscribed "Sin Valor Postal" ("Without postal value"), these are often mistaken for postage stamps.


More here at this previous thread:

https://goscf.com/t/19565
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Posted 08/13/2014   8:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
More on Iberia stamps (charity labels) here:

https://goscf.com/t/9999
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Posted 08/14/2014   06:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mobilman44 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,
Thanks for the input. Looks like I'll just sort these and put away with other cinderellas. From what I can tell, they really have very little value.

Thanks again!
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Posted 08/14/2014   06:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Terence Collins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The rule I apply is that if stamps were issued and used as valid postage then they are stamps and not cinderellas.

Terry
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Posted 08/14/2014   08:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mobilman44 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I certainly can't argue that, although my benchmark is that if it isn't recognized in the Scotts Internationals, then it gets tucked away in a glassine. I just have no desire to collect cinderellas or other non general postage stamps.
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Posted 08/14/2014   08:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Climber Steve to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have a few of those; also some with Tangier overprints. I'm not really into "Cindys," but they are kept in the back of the Spanish section of my Scott Intl.

Same with some other countries. For me at least, I think they add another dimension to collecting.
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Posted 08/14/2014   11:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Buck49 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Iberian peninsula is the peninsula that has Spain and Portugal on it. I don't know what stamps you have, but I believe there have been times where "Iberia" on a stamp meant Spain. I don't know if this helps or confuses...
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Posted 08/15/2014   06:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cursus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"Iberia" was the name Greeks gave to the Iberian peninsula, coming from the river "Iberus" (today's "Ebro", in Spanish or "Ebre", in Catalan). Incidentally, in the Basque language (spoken since pre-Roman times) the word "Eiber", means just "river".

Romans called the peninsula "Hispania", coming from the phoenician "Spharad" or "Land of rabbits", as these rodents were very common in our peninsula.

On the Iberian peninsula there are currently 4 stamp issuing entities: Andorra (French & Spanish P.O.), Gibraltar, Portugal and Spain.

But "Iberia" is also the name of the main Spanish airways company, that was issuing the charity labels that we're talking about. These labels can be widely found for nearly nothing...
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