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Posted 08/20/2014   8:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The blue 233a that I shown from Cherrystone Auction is nothing like the blue of Siegel Auction ........so someone is enchancing their color or the different scanners and screens are distorting the shades so much ,that only a certificate is needed for a positive I.D.,mine is much strong in shade than the scan shows but then again I use a 3 in 1 scanner,printer fax machine machine .So it is easy to say those two Siegel scans look nothing like the blue of the one cent block neither .
Also someone should add that the 233a also comes in two shades of blue.
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Posted 08/21/2014   12:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jenny2U to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You seem reluctant to post a scan of your 1 cent Columbians next to your alleged 233a as suggested by srailkb, so I guess this will have to do? Your scans, so same scanner and no color enhancing:





Your stamp sure looks to me a normal issue. But of course as you said, only a cert will provide a positive ID.
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Edited by Jenny2U - 08/21/2014 12:34 am
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Posted 08/22/2014   11:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the 233a from the SWEDISHTIGER website ,it is nothing like the SIEGEL picture .

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Posted 08/22/2014   11:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a block of 4 of 233a from Cherrystone Stamp Auction ......notice the color to the Siegel stamps .......

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Posted 08/22/2014   11:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The first Siegel color -----

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Posted 08/22/2014   11:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The single copy from Cherrystone Auctions of a 233a ------

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Posted 08/22/2014   11:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The value of posting different scans/images is not clear to me at all. For exemple, note the difference in the 'black' background in Jenny2U post; obviously one was done with the scanner cover off and one done with scanner cover down. No one can draw an conclusions on stamp color if this is what happened.

We have had many 'color' discussions here in this forum and should all understand that for comparison purposes the images need to be developed in the same way; ideally in the same scan. The proper and correct way to get the most accurate color scan is to limit the ambient light and keep the scanner cover closed AND scan both at same time.

Floortrader, any chance we could get you to scan 233, the 233a and a 1c all at the same time and in the same image? If so we could bring this discussion quickly to a close. :)
Don
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Edited by 51studebaker - 08/22/2014 11:35 am
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Posted 08/22/2014   11:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you ask me ----and nobody did ......I think someone is enhaceing their colors but I don't want to say who, because I don't want to be sued by Siegel Stamp Auctions and get other posters upset ,so I leave it to each reader to decide about the color and stay free of a lawsuit and hard feelings here .
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Posted 08/22/2014   12:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jenny2U to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
floortrader if you think you have a stamp worth $10,000+, why don't you just send it for certification? Otherwise, your accusations that everyone (but yourself of course) is manipulating scan colors is a bit offputting to say the least. It's quite sad, but it looks like you're trying to fool yourself about your stamp, because no one else here sees anything but a normal issue 233. So why not just have it certified and prove everyone wrong?

Edit: for complete accuracy, here are the stamps from the Swedish Tiger Website - you posted the 233 and not the 233a ...



The image you posted as "233a" (compare the perforations)



You know, we have enough problems trying to convince new collectors that their stamps aren't "rare" - I guess I'm just surprised that an experienced collector would not be able to properly identify a stamp and would go to such lengths to try to prove to everyone that he owns a certain stamp. Like I said above, quite sad.
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Edited by Jenny2U - 08/22/2014 1:09 pm
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Do you have a scan of the 70c that we can see? Maybe a link to the PSE certificate (it would include the scan). We'd love to see!

Matt
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