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Any Info On These? First Day Covers? 1908, 20's, 30's

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Posted 09/08/2014   10:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add maverickx to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Any info on these? I really like the airmail one. Thanks!







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Posted 09/08/2014   10:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add maverickx to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Princess Anne one has a stamp on the back that says 1931.
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Posted 09/08/2014   5:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add blcjr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know about the others, but for sure the cover with the 5 cent airmail stamp ("Sherman Hill Beacon") isn't: first day of issue was 7-25-1928 and location was Washington DC.
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Posted 09/09/2014   03:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe it's just the lack of coffee this morning but I cant see an Air Mail cover just postal stationery/embossed envelopes? Still neat group of covers.
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Posted 09/09/2014   12:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Without dates on 3 of the 4, what lead you to believe they are first day covers ?
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Posted 09/09/2014   12:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add maverickx to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm a beginning stamp collector, stallzar.
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Posted 09/09/2014   6:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Never mind.
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Edited by stallzer - 09/09/2014 6:26 pm
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Posted 09/09/2014   9:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add blcjr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Maybe it's just the lack of coffee this morning but I cant see an Air Mail cover just postal stationery/embossed envelopes? Still neat group of covers.
The second image is of a cover with Scott #C11.

maverickx,

Maybe to fill in for stalizer, first day covers usually have a special cancellation indicating that they are first day covers, or otherwise have special cachets or envelopes indicating that they are first day covers. Prior to the 1920's, I don't think that was so, but first day covers prior to 1922 are quite rare. It was in the 1920's that first day and first flight covers explicitly began to be collected (became "collectibles"). I don't know which US stamps received the first special first day type of cancellation -- perhaps someone else knows and could provide that information. But I'm pretty sure it would be sometime in the 1920's [edit: actually, maybe not even until the late 1930's or 1940's?]. My topical interest is in aviation and airmail stamps, and if they are any guide, before the post office began using special cancellations, collectors were using special envelopes and cachets to indicate first day covers.

That said, I happen to have a first day cover for Scott #C11, and it does not have a distinctive cachet or cancellation, but it does have the correct cancellation for a first day cover of that stamp.

I saw in another thread where somewhat recommended Scott's US Specialized catalog, and I agree with that recommendation. And especially for the older stamps and covers, you don't need the latest version (which is quite expensive). You can get a version that is two or three years out of date for much much less. I've bought mine through Amazon (though it came from some other bookseller). The following link is for various vendors using Amazon to sell the 2013 edition at a price as low as $32.29 (+ $3.99 shipping):

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-list...ndition=used

A lot better than paying $130 for the current edition!
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Edited by blcjr - 09/09/2014 9:21 pm
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Posted 09/09/2014   9:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I don't know which US stamps received the first special first day type of cancellation -- perhaps someone else knows and could provide that information.


I want to say Scott #795 (Northwest Territory) was the first commemorative stamp to bear the words "FIRST DAY OF ISSUE" within the killer bars of the postmark. It was issued 07/13/1937.

I'm not 100% sure that is accurate, but it was sometime around there...maybe someone else can confirm.
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Posted 09/10/2014   06:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add maverickx to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you so much blcjr and wt1! That is a lot of great info! I'm going to stop by my local coin and stamp guy today and see if he has a book. I am fascinated by this new hobby of mine. Do you think the cover would have any premium?
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Posted 09/10/2014   06:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry I still don't see it?? I only see a few embossed envelopes...
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Posted 09/10/2014   07:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think your images have changed. I agree. Unless Princess Anne has grown to look more like George Washington with age (sorry, you Majesty), then you posting has relinked to other images. Which are also not first day covers.
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Posted 09/10/2014   09:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add maverickx to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Really sorry about this confusion.. threads were all messed up. I think bc is obviously referring to my other thread with the airmail stamp.
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Posted 09/10/2014   1:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add blcjr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's the image that I'm seeing in the first post in this thread, not some other one.



Scott C11, but not a first day cover.
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