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High Value Israeli Stamp With Tab Reattached & Regummed

 
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Posted 09/17/2014   03:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add ashuber to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I recently sent an Israel #9 to inspection and it was found to have the tab reattached and re-gummed.

What is the opinion of collectors on stamps in this condition?

The stamp in question is unused - see scan.

Would there be any premium over a an unused re-gummed single or is a reattached tab considered to be slightly more desirable?

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Posted 09/17/2014   04:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CanadaStamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is a stamp with faults, worth - in my opinion - less than an unmolested single without the tab.
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Posted 09/17/2014   04:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I hope you didn't pay for the inspection !!

And I hope that they informed you as to the most obvious fault.......your stamp does not have any selvedge so is no better than a stamp without Tab when deciding on value.

Quite why someone would want to go to the trouble of re-attaching a a part Tab is beyond me ! .

re-gumming is another story but it takes down the value further. On top of the faults already mentioned, the stamp is grubby and has some kind of mark top left [could be a minor crease, I cannot tell].

All that aside, it is still a classic and a very desirable one....and also beautiful [I have to say that don't I].

Value:

An untabbed #9 has a value around 8% of the tabbed version [Full Tab]. Part Tabbed Israel stamps are considered to be without Tab when deciding on value.
Because this stamp has other faults the figure I suggested above will come down another notch ot two.

Hope this helps.

Londonbus1

P.S. I did not mention actual prices because all catalogues are different as are dealers prices, ebay sellers and the like. I based my my answers on an average of 3 listings I checked out. There is, of course, a margin of error......hopefully not that big !
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Israel
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Posted 09/17/2014   09:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ashuber to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes I did pay for the inspection but it was for a set of all 3 high values with tabs. The 250m and 500m were found to be 100% genuine.

I got all 3 in separate ebay auctions which now seems very risky to do.

Thankfully I did not pay a lot for the above mentioned 1000m stamp ($204 USD) so I guess its true what they say - you get what you pay for.

The seller listed the item as "1000 M HALF TAB MNH".

Do you think this requires me to report him for a fraudulent listing to ebay management?
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Posted 09/17/2014   10:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A listing with the words 'Half Tab' or 'Part Tab' are quite common and honestly, any buyer spending that kind of money should know what he is buying, whether he or she collects Israel stamps or not.

But having said that, the price appears to be OK although I have no idea of current Scott value [My 2002 catalogue lists a MNH copy with no Tab at $225 which is about the % I stated of MNH with Full Tab.

We live and learn with this kind of item and deal and I don't think you would be justified in reorting him/her for a fraudulent listing.
Do you have a link to the ended listing ?

I have just checked a few listings both here and elsewhere and like all philatelic items, there is a bit of a price range. This particular stamp appears to be cheaper when purchased locally than from ebay or dealer in the USA [for example].

The bottom line is it is a nice stamp and if you are happy with it then that is all that matters. I would not turn my nose up at it !

I no longer collect postage stamps but when I did, and Israel was one of my passions, I never owned this #9 ! I did handle one or two used copies but that was as close as I came.

Londonbus1....tends to ramble on !
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Posted 09/17/2014   10:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jenny2U to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ashuber, if the seller did not disclose the regumming/reattachment in the listing, I personally would (1) contact the seller with your findings and ask for a refund and (2) if the seller refuses, open a significantly not as described (SNAD) claim. You paid a decent amount of money for a stamp which has very little value due to all the alterations. A better stamp can be purchased for close to the same price you paid for this "frankenstamp" Watch your dates for filing claims though and don't let the seller drag them out.
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Posted 09/17/2014   11:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add adcaplan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As a collector of Israel stamps, I would say that the reattached tab makes this no better than an untabbed single. And the regumming degrades the value even further. I would return the stamp.
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Posted 09/17/2014   12:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ashuber to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My request for return was not accepted by the seller. Seems that he does a very heavy volume and gets from many different suppliers. I'm going to take the high road and learn from my mistake. In any event at least I know the true story behind the stamp and can keep it in perspective for my collection.

Thanks to everyone who replied on this thread your comments were very helpful.
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Posted 09/17/2014   12:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jenny2U to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you paid with Paypal, as a buyer you are protected against misdescribed items and the seller has to refund you. Just follow the procedure here:

http://ocsnext.ebay.com/ocs/sr?sear...0description

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Posted 09/17/2014   1:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ashuber,

Just to confirm and for your future reference, all Israel stamps with Tabs have a straight edge at the Bottom, or left,right or top if that is the way they are issued.
Many of the earlier issues have both [part] Tab and selvedge and such stamps should be described as having 'Full Tab'.

If the selevedge is missing and the bottom edge is perforated then the stamp is no better than an example with no Tab and the price should reflect this.

There are many dealers and sellers that do not realise this or try to get away with it [if the item is high end].

I have often written to sellers who list as 'with Tab' when it's only Half, Part or short Tab. Some replies I receive are quite insulting !

There should be no mark up anywhere for a stamp with part Tab. It must always be based on the price without Tab.

Londonbus1

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Posted 09/17/2014   2:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add adcaplan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Londonbus, part tabs do have more value than singles without tabs, but less than stamps with full tabs. This is true on cover as well. I would say it is a 10-20% premium for short tab. This is probably still only 10% of the value of a full tab.
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