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Foreign Soil Depicted On Canadian Stamps

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Posted 11/14/2014   9:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Gilles le Timbre has picked a stamp that I missed! And so I have spent a while looking up the other stamps in that issue and learning about Canadian cinema.
The picture on the stamp of the train does not seem to match the ones in various film archives, but it is definitely in France.
Well done! That will be example number twenty #1615a (1996), bumping xyyz' Hockey Summit to twenty-two.

The next offering may be opening a can of worms, for it is a piece of art:
#492 (1969) Commemoration of the 100th anniversary of the birth of Marc-Aurèle de Foy Suzor-Côté



Entitled "Return from the Harvest Field" it was painted in Europe in 1903. In 1908 Suzor-Côté returned to his native Quebec where he made his reputation as an outstanding interpreter of Canadian landscapes.

Now I did not like Gilles le Timbre's suggestion that all backgrounds in the royal portraits would be foreign, so I am drawing a fine line here. As I was deciding about this one, it occurred to me that there might be numerous examples of foreign subjects in Canada's many celebrations of Canadian art. It turns out, however, that this is the only one I could find.

So I present it as example ten. (5 more before the war issues.)

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Posted 11/14/2014   11:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
here is another one showing an airplane over the Atlantic, flying over a German U-boat. Although there is no "soil" per se, I trust that you meant "soil" as generic term...Awaiting for your reply

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Edited by Gilles le timbre - 11/14/2014 11:27 pm
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Posted 11/14/2014   11:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Scottamer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I thing that sak has made a very legitimate choice with the Suzor-Côté stamp. But this does certainly open a can of worms.

In searching for the next foreign soil stamp. I peeked at the Stephen Leacock stamp (#504) and questioned the small hamlet shown in the background. Since this stamp celebrates the centenary of his birth which took place in Southern England, and since he also wrote about his childhood, I think it is possible the hamlet is his home in England. However, I can find no reference to this so I think I will pass on this stamp unless someone else has definitive information on the location shown in the stamp.

Although the Expo '70 stamps honour the world's fair in Japan, there is no sign of Japan on the four stamps. Even the flowers are Canadian!

For me, this brings us to more foreign soil in artwork on Canadian stamps. Interestingly, this is children's artwork as shown in the 1970 Xmas stamps. Now I have not researched these and it is certainly not obvious as to what the subject matter is for each of these stamps. But there appears to be at least three nativity scenes in this stamp series with stamps 521, 524, and 529. This would place Bethlehem of ancient Judea as the next foreign soil on Canadian stamps.

If anyone has any other suggestions, speak up. Steve, let me know if this parallels your thinking or if you have another surprise for us.



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Posted 11/15/2014   12:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
here is another interesting one. The race won by Hanlan on this stamp took place in Australia, in front of 100000 Aussies.

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Posted 11/15/2014   12:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Last one for tonight, Young Emma Albani, portrait taken in 1870, when she was living in Italy (and a short trip to Malta)

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Posted 11/15/2014   12:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rats! You fellows are keeping me up late.

I don't think we can allow international waters as foreign soil. Frozen water, however, in the USSR was accepted, so the water must be claimed by some country.

The baby Jesus can be found in Canadian crèche scenes which is where these children will have seen Him.

I was introduced to Stephen Leacock in high school literature class. His most famous work was "Sunshine Sketches of a Little Town" a wonderfully gentle comedy about small town Canadian life. The fictitious town was called Mariposa and has to be what is represented on the stamp because of the addition of a very prominent sun.

The next example, I believe, is made certain by the presence of a foreign flag.

edit: this post was made while Gilles le timbre was busy posting the above two. Hanlan's picture does not allow us to say where it was taken. But Emma Albani's picture needs some research. Very intriguing - but I'm off to bed. Maybe Gilles le timbre could provide more evidence while we rest our brains
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Edited by sak - 11/15/2014 12:34 am
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Posted 11/15/2014   09:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
One not so obvious one has been missed. The 1864 Charlottetown Conference took place in Prince Edward Island, which was a British colony at the time. PEI did not join Confederation until 1873.

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Posted 11/15/2014   10:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, BeeSee, but there was no Canada either at the time of the photograph.
For that matter, ALL Canadian pictorials will depict places that were previously not Canada.
Rendering this fun blog... un-fun.
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Posted 11/15/2014   11:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hey it is not un-fun Sak! Au contraire!

The Province of Canada DID exist in in 1864, and the event took place outside of the Canada at the time of the event. Just my interpretation .
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Posted 11/15/2014   11:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
To paraphrase Wert postings, "The question is more important than the answer", so it leaves a lot to interpretation and imagination. Nevertheless it is quite fun, and challenging. Thanks Sak for initiating this post.
In the case of Emma Albani, the picture is from when she was younger, at the start of her career, and at that time, she lived in Italy, then later in Paris and England (even performed for queen Victoria) The actual picture in front of a window with an arch is typical of Italian architecture in the 19th century. See page 2 (young Albani picture and link on page 6 with more explanation on Canada's archive site (http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/...054.1-e.html
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Posted 11/15/2014   11:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And before that it was Kanata...
Let's leave it to BeeSee to list every Canadian pictorial...
Hopefully in another blog.

Well done, Gilles le timbre. I don't think we can include every portrait here but the piano behind the lady implies some place and it is probably in Italy.
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Edited by sak - 11/15/2014 12:02 pm
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Posted 11/15/2014   9:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Between Suzor-Côté and Emma Albani is the eleventh example:
#737 (1977) Peace Bridge 50th Anniversary



The position of the flags demarcate the international border.
This is the first (but not the only) US flag to be found on a Canadian stamp.
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Posted 11/16/2014   01:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For all the "flyspeckers" out there, the Peace Bridge stamp shown above may be showing the US Flag with the wrong number of stripes. There are supposed to be 13 stripes (as in representing the 13 original States) that should start with a red stripe and end with a red stripe.

Now if you blow up the image of the Peace Bridge Stamp, it gives the appearance that the bottom stripe is white, which means it is really depicting only 12 stripes ... or could it be a slight color mis-registration that gives it that effect?
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Posted 11/16/2014   09:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wt1...You could be correct and "flyspecking" even more, there is NO shadow to the right of the bridge foundation onto the water..And there is 2 light posts missing.


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Edited by wert - 11/16/2014 09:11 am
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Posted 11/16/2014   2:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I can't get any closer. Perhaps Wert with his magical lens can solve the mystery.

(I miscalculated - there are but two more examples before the WWII series (1989-95))
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