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Russian, But What Is It And What Happened To It?

 
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Posted 12/05/2014   1:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add stampfan9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Not sure if item is a stamp or a cutout from a book or from a stationery item. Any insight from the forum would be appreciated.

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Posted 12/05/2014   2:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Trainwreck to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It seems to be an early Russian imperf. stamp. I have no catalog handy. Pretty dramatic misregistration of color.

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Posted 12/05/2014   2:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like printer waste ,the paper in the background is wrong .
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Posted 12/05/2014   11:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rtvstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice piece my friend!. It matching with the Russia Scott #45 (type A9), May 14, 1889.



It exist imperfs, center ommited, etc., maybe your stamp is a proof with error in the surcharge. The paper normally is "laid". If the paper is very thick probably is a cutout from a stationery

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Rodolfo
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Edited by rtvstamps - 12/05/2014 11:14 pm
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Posted 12/06/2014   01:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add YoshiRules2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So is that 1 ruble on the stamp?
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Posted 12/06/2014   02:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add YeaPolska to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Russian 1 Ruble stamp started out in 1898, on horizontally laid paper, Perf. 13˝, Scott 45. In 1902 it changes to vertically laid paper, Scott 68.

It then shows up, still Perf. 13˝, but on normal wove paper & with vertical lozenges of varnish on the face in 1909 as Scott 87, this then changes to imperf, Scott 131 in 1917, & then finally with horizontal lozenges, perf & imperf, as Scott 87g.

There are numerous printing errors throughout, missing background, oval, doubling of same, inverts, etc, many of them still at reasonable rates.

Yes, yours does appear to be printers waste, though of which specific issue it might be hard to ascertain.
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Posted 12/06/2014   07:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Trainwreck to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm curious about that ghostly image on the left, consisting of two circular arcs and extending up and to the center of the stamp. The arcs looks consistent with the brown oval in the frame, but not the same.

Hmm.

Robert
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Posted 12/06/2014   09:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add YeaPolska to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's the background. here's an imperf between pair which shows the 3 elements more clearly, background, frame, centre + figure of value.

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Posted 12/06/2014   09:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Trainwreck to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks. Very interesting stamp.
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Posted 12/06/2014   11:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampfan9 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the replies. shown is a scan of the reverse side of the stamp which to touch seems to be very thin.


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Posted 12/06/2014   8:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add YeaPolska to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That number 118 on the back, it's not Scott or Michel, maybe Gibbons?
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Posted 04/21/2017   7:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add edw_kim to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
i found the same stamp in my old russian world collection,see photos front and back,and yes mine is the imperforated version.what is needed is additional information regarding what scott number applies?

note-the paper is very light and thin..



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