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Posted 12/14/2014   6:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Cloose to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello,
I have recently come across this particular stamp from a collection I've acquired. I know nothing about stamps so I have come here. I have provided a scan of the stamp with a card of information it was with. The reason I seek more information is due to the price that was paid for it, $1250. Any information would be appreciated, description, if it is the stamp described on the paper and price. Thanks for the help!

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Posted 12/14/2014   6:58 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This stamp exists in imperforated form, but would ordinarily be sold as a pair, and Gibbons catalogues it on that basis. This has been been so cut down that it would, I think, be impossible to tell if it were originally genuinely imperforate, or if the perforations had been trimmed to give it that appearance. I can't imagine that anyone but an eccentric millionaire would have paid $1250 for it.
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Posted 12/14/2014   8:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add HungaryForStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The price on the card doesn't necessarily mean the price that was paid. It could simply mean the owner hadn't identified it yet, but narrowed it down to two possibilities. Or, it could have been added to deceive a potential buyer. That stamp is in very poor condition and I bet wouldn't sell for more than 5-10% of a decent copy, which in all probability is plain old #19.

To identify it properly, you need a catalog. Once identified, to get a going price try ebay and reduce the value properly due to the poor condition. If it really were a #19a you'd need to get it expertised. Even so, it would be nearly impossible to determine it was genuine as mentioned above.
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Posted 12/14/2014   9:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Cloose..Welcome to the forum.

I think the guys are correct in saying some one might have trimmed off the perforation to make it appear imperforate...you may have a hard time identifying it as such.

And here my stamp which I think is a Scott #3 or Scott #17...Trim it and you will get approximately what you have.




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Edited by wert - 12/14/2014 9:13 pm
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Posted 12/16/2014   03:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cloose to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone, this is definitely good information to know!
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Posted 12/19/2014   2:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vasia to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Cloose,

this is definitely a trimmed copy of Scott 19. The imperf variety of this stamp (Scott 19b) is usually found with shifted or inverted background. Below is an example of 19b with shifted background:



Here is the information on Scott 19b provided by Zbigniew Mikulski, one of the foremost experts in the field, in his article "Imperforate varieties of 19th century imperial Russia" (http://ufdc.ufl.edu/UF00076781/0004...post-rider):

2 sheets of this imperforate 1k are known to have circulated. The first sheet used in Moscow and in the mail van of the TPO Moscow-St. Petersburg in 1869. The second sheet had all its stamps with a shifted background and was used in the mail van of TPO Warsaw-Granitsa in May 1874.
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Edited by vasia - 12/19/2014 2:21 pm
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