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Niagara, St Catharine's, And Toronto (Ns&t) Railway

 
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Posted 12/31/2014   11:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add ikeyPikey to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

My first Niagara, St Catharine's, and Toronto (NS&T) Railway postcard:



The blackish shmutz (<== technical deltiology term) on the upper reaches of the image side of the card may look like a catastrophe to you, but landed this card in a bargain box, where it looked lovely to me.

As the card did not travel thru the post, I'm guessing it ain't black ink.

As the back of the card is pretty much faultless (see the very pretty legend, below), I am tentatively ruling out mold & mildew & other Things That Grow In The Dark after continued dampness.





Q/ What might be a suitable treatment to remove the shmutz?

I'm considering a very slightly damp cloth carrying well-diluted dishwashing liquid ...

As to the image, I'm thinking that they staged or improved the image, as that seems like a lot of trolleys to be nose-to-butt on that bridge all at once. Or, was it rush hour?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niagar...onto_Railway

http://www.trainweb.org/elso/nst.htm

http://transit.toronto.on.ca/regional/4756.shtml

Q/ Anybody know the name of that bridge?

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey (who had to edit this post twice to add the postcard)

And I don't even do New Year's Eve, myself. The New Year's Day news is always full of reasons why.

[video] Tribute to the NS&T: Final Run March 28th 1959:

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Posted 01/01/2015   10:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Where is this postcard?
A nice 7-page photo essay on the NS&T can be found in the Canadian Railroad Historical Association's magazine "Canadian Rail." (Sept/Oct 2009)
http://www.exporail.org/can_rail/Ca...532_2009.pdf
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Posted 01/01/2015   5:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikeyPikey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
sak: My edit (to add the forgotten postcard) seems to have failed. Success, above.

Q/ Was that video 'tribute' a little over-the-top, or what?
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Posted 01/02/2015   09:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rustyc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ikey, it's a neat postcard -- I am glad the edit finally succeeded. Since addictively playing Railroad Tycoon many years ago, I've had a dilettante's interest in trainish things.

Based only on observing the scan, the "shmutz" looks to me like it could possibly be intentional, i.e. a poorly executed attempt at some sort of artful framing of the sky portion.

As for the video tribute, one can only imagine what's in store for the 52nd anniversary of the last run.
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Posted 01/02/2015   11:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's always entertaining to see that the same "stock" postcard image was used by other postcard publishers back in the day:

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Posted 01/02/2015   12:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikeyPikey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
... one can only imagine what's in store for the 52nd anniversary of the last run ...





Quote:
... a train ... of four rail cars ...


Q/ Do we know who wrote this caption? Aside from the uneven spacing between the trolleys - and, aside from the fact that there is spacing, period - did the NS&T combine trolleys into trains?

My father (z"l) taught me: "If, if, if ... if my grandmother had had wheels, I'd be a trolley car."

He never mentioned anything about a 4-trolley train.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey
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Q/ Do we know who wrote this caption? Aside from the uneven spacing between the trolleys - and, aside from the fact that there is spacing, period - did the NS&T combine trolleys into trains?


Postcard image from the Niagara Falls, Canada Public Library website. Caption quoted verbatim as it appears at this link:

http://www.nflibrary.ca/nfplindex/s...d=301240&b=1

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This line was an electric interurban railway. The caption is not accurate. This looks like a staged publicity shot of four individual self-propelled electric interurban cars. Because these cars cannot safely operate separately with spacing that is as close as shown in the photo, they would have moved each car onto the bridge separately and then taken the photo with all of them stopped. The idea probably was to make the line look more important and bustling than it actually was.

Interurban railways often operated two or more cars coupled as a train on busier routes or lines. This was common, for example, for the Pacific Electric in Southern California. However, they would have been closely coupled and not spaced apart as shown in the photo.
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Posted 01/03/2015   12:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikeyPikey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
... Interurban railways often operated two or more cars coupled as a train on busier routes or lines ...


To get some perspective, I consulted (flipped thru) Ray D Applegate's Trolleys and Street Cars on American Picture Postcards, a lovely book with '191 Reproductions, Including 16 in Full Color'.

There was no point doing an exact count, as a single postcard might come from an operator with >500 cars, or less than 5, and a weighted average would have been unreliable, too.

Some of the cards did, indeed, show multiple coupled trolley cars and, indeed, they were usually on interurban lines.

But the vast majority of cards did not show an obvious coupler on the front of the car, which would have come into use when it was the second (or later) car in a train.

Many of the cars had cattle guards (!) and, of course, there could have been a coupler that was exposed once the guard was dismounted.

More likely, the times were just different. Today, people have become more expensive, and things have become cheaper, so we would expect every car to come with an integrated factory-installed coupler at either end of the car. Back then, things were more expensive and people were less expensive, so it might have made more sense to mount a coupler on a car only when the need arose.

The book (used, softcover) is available for less than U$D 4 ppd to USA at:

http://www.abebooks.com/products/is.../13108204612

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey
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