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Posted 01/29/2015   11:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jogil to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Here are some old rotary wheel perforator pictures that may be of interesting to look at:

http://www.wirebids.com/lots/view/r...o-find/19742

http://www.wirebids.com/lots/view/n...y-rare/19684



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Posted 01/29/2015   6:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jobi01 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Old pictures of perforators or pictures of old perforators or old pictures of old perforators?
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These have always been my favorites...






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Posted 02/07/2015   7:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
pictures of old perforators

IBFS: The picture you show is of a Stickney bar and wheel perforator that was used to perforate Stickney rotary press sheet stamps.
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Nice! thanks for sharing.
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jogil,I have a question regarding that stickney bar and wheel perforator pic posted by -IBFS.

In a previous post you said


Quote:
Sheet-fed flat plate printed sheet and booklet stamps were mostly perforated by two
one-way sheet-fed flat plate rotary wheel perforators with one perforator for horizontal perforations
and with one perforator for vertical perforations. Flat plate coil stamps were perforated by this same
perforator but only in one direction either horizontally or vertically.


On that pic above I see only the rotary wheel where
the pins would only perforate vertically.

So, were the sheets then repositioned and fed through again
to produce the horizontal perfs?

I had the impression that it was all done on one pass.

My knowledge about perforations is limited but it
seems to be your specialty.




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lithograving: In the picture showing the whole bar and wheel perforator, the bump or hump on the perforator is where the horizontal bars are located right behind the vertical wheels in the front.

The confusion lies in that most rotary press stamps were perforated by one bar and wheel perforator while most flat plate stamps were perforated by two rotary wheel flat plate perforators.
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Edited by jogil - 02/09/2015 7:28 pm
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Thanks jogil.

Just to be totally clear about it, are both
vertical and horizontally marked correct in the pic?



So the whole roll after it came off the rotary press
was fed into this perforator and as it passed through
continuously both horizontal and vertical holes were
punched through.
Correct?
And of course they would be line perforations.

Odd that Scott doesn't list whether comb or line
perfs whereas catalogues like Michel do.
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lithograving: Yes, you are correct in the labeling of the two different perforating units in one machine as long as the stamps were mostly fed in head first and they were line perforations like you said. This machine is in the Smithsonian U.S. National Postal Museum. Many U.S. stamps were printed by BEP Stickney rotary press and perforated by BEP Stickney bar and wheel perforator and later electric eye perforator. Some Canadian stamps were also printed and perforated this way by BABN in the 1930's.
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