Central Lithuania 1920-21 Forgeries

Sorry, I misunderstood. I will check these also. Wont be for a couple of weeks as we are finishing up a move and will be taking some time away on holiday.

Resurrected after less than ten years. :)
I had to really reduce heavily to get this under the 300K limit:


The first stamp is genuine IMHO.
The next four are all with a smaller design, and all forgeries. These are easy, especially that first one.
The last three are tougher. Note the design of the shield for the Hussar. In the genuine it's formed by two diamonds in outline. In the three forgeries the design is either not there at all or very different from the genuine.
I don't have enough examples of the second set (1921) or the 1921 overprints to show a representative sample of the forgeries. I believe they will follow the same characteristics as these, however.
If anyone has enough of these issues to find more types, please let me know...

Just another note on those, the perforated forgeries shown are all perforated 10½, the genuine perforated I have are all perforated 11½.

So, I now have close to a dozen different forgery designs, all with various issues with the Hussar's shield. I find it surprising that there would be so many different, unless some forger did a bunch of slightly different cliches and built their sheet from that. Does anyone have these in blocks or sheets? I'd really like to look at them if so...
Note that just having white paper isn't enough to call one genuine. I have forgeries on white paper, genuine on cream paper and genuine on grayish paper.

Getting ready to work on these myself.
I agree that the perf 10 1/2 are obvious forgeries.
Also, the 25f issues all seem to be of a smaller design, forgeries as well as genuine, at least going by the copies I have. Wondering why Scott doesn't even mention this difference.
One thing I notice, genuine v. forgeries is on the ring that surrounds the numeral of value. On the genuine stamps there are many small lines of detail in this ring, whereas on the forgeries, most, or many of those small lines are missing.

I'm also reading that a ton of printers waste found it's way into the hobby, which further mucks things up.

I just did some measuring and you are right. The 25f first issue are all about 1.5mm shorter in the design for the genuine than the other values in that first issue. I'll try and measure the 25f for the second issue as well, though likely tomorrow.