New South Wales - ID Help Please

I'm wondering if someone out there with a catalog other than Scott could help id this stamp. I am using the Scott, and it does not list perf 11x11-1/2 for this stamp.


Perf = 11x11-1/2

HI JessEm
Scotts does list two 11x12 versions (#61 and 70) which is close. They do sometimes round off. Does the stamp have a watermark?

Hello jamesw!

The watermark is 55. ... I just triple checked again and the sides are dead-on at 11.5. 12 is off...

Jess
This design appeared in various shades, perfs and watermarks over a 20 year + period. I've no idea what Scott wmk 55 is, but, if it's the 1882-93 issue, with SG wmk 40, SG lists 8 perf varieties, including 12x11 and 11x12.
Geoff

watermark 55 would put it in the #61 family. There are a variety of perfs there.

55 in Scotts looks like it is #40 in my old Stanley Gibbons

Geoff, you are correct. The wmk is 1882-93 (82-91 in Scott).

Ok. I'm sure I can't simply decide which perf I think it should be. So I have to switch gears for a minute.

When a stamp is certified, does the certification you receive list the perf measurements? Assuming it does, does it list the exact measurement, or does the expert look at it and say, "Well, 11.5 isn't listed in the guide so it must be 11 or 12"...?

The reason I ask is because I will send this thing off tomorrow (the sooner the better, before my frustration subsides and I move on), just to spite these guides.

Thanks for the input.

jamesw, The wmk looks like the one you posted.

jamesw & GeoffHa thanks again to both of you for taking your time to assist with this stamp yesterday. I got a little hyper and I hope I don't appear to be taking it out on you guys. Some of my comments were not directed at you per se, it was just me voicing a little frustration. I have to apologize if it appears that way.

So I might still send this off somewhere. I'm curious what happens when a bona fide perf not in the catalogs lands on their desk... In the meantime, any insight or thoughts on this process is welcomed. And if/when I do send it somewhere, I will follow up and post the results in this thread.

Thanks again and have a great day.

I don't recall if you've shown or mentioned the perf gauge you are using, but if you are not using one of the clear plastic gauges with the series of not-quite parallel lines, you might think about it. Easy to get consistent measurements to the tenth.

Gibbons makes one marketed as the Instanta, and there is one in the U.S. sold under a few different brands, often called Multi-Gauge.

What you will find when you are measuring to the tenth is that catalogue editors round up or down, and not consistently. 11.3 does not always become 11.5; sometimes it is 11. Maddening, yes, but part of the deal, frankly.

Great advice, Cjd. My gauge is indeed fairly basic and dated. I will look into a new one today.

It looks like Gibbons # 223f, 1d. Orange to Scarlet, Large Crown watermark, perf. 11 x 12 with a fiscal cancel,

Pagoda