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I Think This Is An Australian Stamp..?

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Posted 03/04/2015   09:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wert to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi guys...Pretty sure this is an Australian stamp...But cant find it in Scott Catalogue..Can any one also make out the year on the pen cancel..??
Thanks....Robert


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Posted 03/04/2015   09:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Trainwreck to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's what I make of it. It's inscribed Victoria and Stamp Duty, so that makes it a fiscal issue from Victoria.

The date seems to be year/month/day, so August 6, 1911?

Regards, Robert
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Posted 03/04/2015   09:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jenny2U to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The pen cancel says "paid". I think the date format is month/day/year, so 11 August (your guess is as good as mine for the year).
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Posted 03/04/2015   09:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Victoria was a British Crown Colony from 1851 to 1901. The stamp above as most likely used before 1901 - my guess would be the date of usage as 11 August 1896?

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Posted 03/04/2015   11:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is a Victoria revenue, for the Australian state. Subject to correction by an expert, I believe this denomination didn't show up until 1929, and continued for a very long time. The first issues were watermarked, and in the '30's, they were issued without a watermark.

I don't have a guess as to the date, either, but I don't think it could predate 1929.

My 2d.
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Posted 03/04/2015   1:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Cjd, you need to enlighten me on this. How long did Victoria issue stamps, if it was an Australian state?

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Posted 03/04/2015   1:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, Cjd. I believe I am confusing apples and oranges! It is a revenue stamp, not a postage stamp.

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Posted 03/04/2015   1:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wert, that "pen" cancel looks like from ballpoint not
fountain pen.

Biro or ballpoints came out after WWII.
Date to me looks like 11/8/60
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Posted 03/04/2015   1:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So, it is a 1960 stamp and not 1896 as they say....from where though..?
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Posted 03/04/2015   3:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
After Australia became a country on January 1, 1901 the State of Victoria (formerly the colony of Victoria) continued to issue revenue stamps. Use of revenue stamps with this design didn't start until after the creation of Australia, and it continued in use for decades.

The details of perfs and watermarks over the years are beyond my rather limited resources.
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Posted 03/04/2015   4:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Wert. It is no secret that this is a revenue stamp from the Australian state of Victoria. We were just trying to confuse everybody ( including ourselves! ).

Peter
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Posted 03/04/2015   4:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Cjd...Ok, you are saying it is a 1960's stamp to and NOT an 1896 stamp..Can you or anyone find a Scott in around the 1960's for me..Cause I sure cant see one..Thanks for help



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the State of Victoria (formerly the colony of Victoria) continued to issue revenue stamps

You know it is not making sense what your saying, that is like Canada putting out Newfoundland stamps with there name on it after 1949 confederation...???

Oh well..I will just through it back in the junk pile from where it came..Thanks guys.

Robert
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Posted 03/04/2015   5:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Robert, this is approximately akin to a Quebec Law Stamp. A state (or province, in the case of Quebec) issuing a revenue stamp for state revenue purposes, not federal postage purposes.

As for the date, I believe the general design started into use in 1902, but the 3d denomination did not issue until 1929, and then it continued thereafter. So I think the cancel cannot be earlier than 1929, but I can't read the year. Not even a guess. 1960 would be as good a guess as any, to my eyes.

Just like a Quebec Law Stamp, Scott does not list it, as it was for revenue purposes, only.
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Posted 03/05/2015   03:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don't confuse Canada and Australia. The drafters of our constitution looked carefully at the Canadian constitution - and then decided to do the complete opposite.
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Don't confuse Canada and Australia. The drafters of our constitution looked carefully at the Canadian constitution - and then decided to do the complete opposite.


And has it worked out for you guys down under?
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Posted 03/05/2015   7:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pk-short to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a link to an online catalog of Australian revenues : http://www.ozrevenues.com. You should be able to identify the stamp through the site. You won't find these in Scott.
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