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Hi guys...Pretty sure this is an Australian stamp...But cant find it in Scott Catalogue..Can any one also make out the year on the pen cancel..?? Thanks....Robert 
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Here's what I make of it. It's inscribed Victoria and Stamp Duty, so that makes it a fiscal issue from Victoria.
The date seems to be year/month/day, so August 6, 1911?
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The pen cancel says "paid". I think the date format is month/day/year, so 11 August (your guess is as good as mine for the year). |
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Victoria was a British Crown Colony from 1851 to 1901. The stamp above as most likely used before 1901 - my guess would be the date of usage as 11 August 1896?
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It is a Victoria revenue, for the Australian state. Subject to correction by an expert, I believe this denomination didn't show up until 1929, and continued for a very long time. The first issues were watermarked, and in the '30's, they were issued without a watermark.
I don't have a guess as to the date, either, but I don't think it could predate 1929.
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Cjd, you need to enlighten me on this. How long did Victoria issue stamps, if it was an Australian state?
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Sorry, Cjd. I believe I am confusing apples and oranges! It is a revenue stamp, not a postage stamp.
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Wert, that "pen" cancel looks like from ballpoint not fountain pen.
Biro or ballpoints came out after WWII. Date to me looks like 11/8/60 |
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So, it is a 1960 stamp and not 1896 as they say....from where though..? |
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After Australia became a country on January 1, 1901 the State of Victoria (formerly the colony of Victoria) continued to issue revenue stamps. Use of revenue stamps with this design didn't start until after the creation of Australia, and it continued in use for decades.
The details of perfs and watermarks over the years are beyond my rather limited resources. |
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Hi Wert. It is no secret that this is a revenue stamp from the Australian state of Victoria. We were just trying to confuse everybody ( including ourselves! ).
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Cjd...Ok, you are saying it is a 1960's stamp to and NOT an 1896 stamp..Can you or anyone find a Scott in around the 1960's for me..Cause I sure cant see one..Thanks for help Quote: the State of Victoria (formerly the colony of Victoria) continued to issue revenue stamps You know it is not making sense what your saying, that is like Canada putting out Newfoundland stamps with there name on it after 1949 confederation...??? Oh well..I will just through it back in the junk pile from where it came..Thanks guys. Robert |
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| Edited by wert - 03/04/2015 4:15 pm |
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Robert, this is approximately akin to a Quebec Law Stamp. A state (or province, in the case of Quebec) issuing a revenue stamp for state revenue purposes, not federal postage purposes.
As for the date, I believe the general design started into use in 1902, but the 3d denomination did not issue until 1929, and then it continued thereafter. So I think the cancel cannot be earlier than 1929, but I can't read the year. Not even a guess. 1960 would be as good a guess as any, to my eyes.
Just like a Quebec Law Stamp, Scott does not list it, as it was for revenue purposes, only. |
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Don't confuse Canada and Australia. The drafters of our constitution looked carefully at the Canadian constitution - and then decided to do the complete opposite. |
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Quote: Don't confuse Canada and Australia. The drafters of our constitution looked carefully at the Canadian constitution - and then decided to do the complete opposite. And has it worked out for you guys down under?  |
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