Great Britain - Help With This Stamp.

Hi guys..This stamp is pretty close to Scott #88 and #89, but cant find it...Can any one help.
And possibly the date on the stamp..?

Thanks, Robert

Stanley Gibbons Inland Revenue # F19

Wert, it is not a postage stamp. That's why no go in Scott!

Peter

PS this fiscal was in production 1867 - 1881 so I would guess the date on the stamp is May 10, 1876.

Thanks guys...So it is NOT a stamp, but it is from Britain, correct..?

Robert, it IS a stamp, just not a postage stamp! These things are called revenue stamps.

Peter

Yes, its a revenue from Great Britain. This one is strictly a fiscal issue. Notice how some of the GB stamps read 'postage & revenue.' Those can be used for either postage or to show a tax as having been paid. This one reading only 'revenue' is restricted to taxes only, so it can't be used to pay postage (although a few did slip through).

As already mentioned by docgfd it is an Inland Revenue stamp S.G.F19 and is from Die 1 (4 were used with various differences) and the stamp is fiscally used and not used postally.

These Inland Revenue stamps were authorized for postage purposes, up to around 1883, due to the Unified series being behind schedule...Unified being dual purpose of "Postage and Revenue" (interesting to note that the first 1d stamp in the Unified series had "Postage and Inland Revenue" printed and it remains the only GB stamps to have that.

scotzm...Is that the 1881 stamp, cause I have 4 of them.

"Is that the 1881 stamp"

Yes... the one with either 14 or 16 dots in the corners. Although over 34 billion of them were printed in total, it remains unique in having "Postage And Inland Revenue" printed on it with all others in the Unified Series and later having "Postage And Revenue".

Cool...My are all 16 dots...Thanks for your help scotzm

scotzm - Its interesting that the Scott catalogue doesn't list these given that they were for a time legal for postal use. I guess then that the ones that I believed to have 'slipped thru' (similar to the occasional US revenue found franking mail) were actually officially sanctioned for use as such. What about after 1883? Were they then relegated to fiscal use only?

Hi docgfd,

I expect the handwritten numbers on the stamp are the amount of the transaction: 16 pounds, ten shillings and fivepence.

Until 1971 a stamp was required as tax on invoices/receipts etc. For many years the tax was 1d (one penny) then it became 2d.

docgfd said "Its interesting that the Scott catalogue doesn't list these..."

Gibbons list these stamps twice... once as a fiscal and again as being a postal/fiscal.
Fiscal stamps such as the one shown is an S.G.F19. Postal use makes it an S.G.L119.
Fiscal stamps (embossed and surface printed) up to the value 2/6 (two shillings and sixpence) were used for postage... 1d, 2d, 3d, 6d, 9d, 1/-, 2/6.
The lower values were discontinued and recalled but obviously many were in public hands so, even after 1883, is was permitted to use up these stamps for postage or for revenue.

Hi scotzm,

SG F19 and L119 are both SG numbers for the postal fiscal, i.e. the mint or postally-used fiscal stamp.

SG F19 is the standard SG catalogue number used in Part 1 and the GB Concise etc.

L119 is the SG Specialised Catalogue number which is cross-referenced there to SG F19.

The same pattern holds for ordinary stamps, e.g. the QV ½d bantam is SG 48/49 and in the SG QV Specialised it's G3.

so which stamp is more hard to get a hold of....Since I only have ONE SG F19 and 4 of the 1881 stamps, does the one above make it more desirable for collecting..?

And does this stamp I can not find in Scott make it the same category as the others..?