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Posted 03/09/2015   11:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add shermae to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I am interested in hearing opinions about the impact of a fingerprint on an otherwise MNH stamp. I've received 5 or 6 recently (all but one on German definitives). Naturally, the sellers did not describe the fingerprints and professed ignorance when I told them.
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Posted 03/10/2015   12:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For me, age of the stamp makes a difference. It is not a general expectation that 80-100 year old mnh stamps would be pristine, although they can be found - particularly the cheaper items. I have bought greatly discounted mnh German stamps from the 1980's with fingerprints, and in my mind they are less than mnh. The German term is "postfrisch" or postally fresh, meaning the stamp is in perfect condition. That really is the 'spirit' of mnh, and I certainly believe it applies to stamps produced after 1950.
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Posted 03/10/2015   08:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Some would consider it as if hinged and others as if gum disturbed. Fingerprints on the gum of stamps can make the gum look dirty. This is an obvious stamp mishandling problem flaw that affects the condition of a stamp.
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Posted 03/10/2015   08:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A stamp described as "MNH" would still be technically so even if the gum were covered with visible fingerprints. "Mint" has come to mean simply "unused with gum" rather than "post office fresh." To the extent that NH commands a premium, NH without fingerprints would be worth more than NH with fingerprints (even if it were "MNH with original fingerprints").
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Posted 03/10/2015   10:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
A stamp described as "MNH" would still be technically so even if the gum were covered with visible fingerprints.


CORRECT
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Posted 03/10/2015   2:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jarnick to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Technically, I have to agree that a MNH stamp with a fingerprint is still Mint, Never Hinged. But, I'd also argue that a more accurate description would be "Disturbed Gum" with a corresponding drop in value.
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Posted 03/10/2015   9:25 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Fingerprints in the gum drives me nuts, especially on modern issues.
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Posted 03/10/2015   9:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JLLebbert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Self-Adhesives have fixed the "fingerprints in the gum" problem. Created new problems in the process, but that's what they call progress.
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Posted 03/10/2015   9:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the insights. I agree with Jarnick- not describing the stamp as "DG" is like not mentioning a tear even though the rest of the stamp is correctly described in all other aspects. To me a fingerprint is DG. Not mentioning something should always be considered deceitful if the condition issue materially affects the value of the stamp. I also agree a fingerprint on a stamp from any era is less valuable than one without gum disturbance.

German stamps of the 20s-50s often have very shiny, very sticky gum but that doesn't mean a fingerprint (or anything else that constitutes disturbed gum) shouldn't be mentioned.
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