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Bushire -- Ever Heard If It?

 
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Posted 04/01/2015   11:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add PoStat4evR to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I noted in the Higgins & Gage postal stationery catalog, a country listing of "Bushire". This seems to be located on the coast of Iran.
They issued postal stationery, and I assume postage stamps as well?
Anybody ever heard of it, and/or seen any of the stamps/postal stationery items?
I have been unable to locate any stationery items, so I guess they are vastly expensive. Haven't looked up the stamps in Scotts.
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Posted 04/01/2015   11:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It was a two-month long British occupation of a Persian Gulf port, in 1915. Scott gives 29 major numbers, all with the N prefix. These are overprints on stamps of Iran, so as you might expect, forgeries abound.

I have never looked for postal stationery, but if they have a listing in H&G, then I guess it exists? Not surprising.
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Posted 04/01/2015   11:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Freibergs to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushehr There is some info here on history for whatever that is worth.
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Posted 04/01/2015   11:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Blaamand to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yepp, postage stamps as well, overprinted on Iranian stamps early in WW1. The place was occupied by the brits for a short while but probably too short for the stamps to be issued in any numbers, they're all quite rare. And as far as I know the forgeries are more common than the authentic stuff. I got one - unable to say if it's genuine or not - I am happy to let it fill otherwise empty page!
I believe Indian stamps were also used in that town, so these postmarks on Indian stamps are sought after.
Have no clue about the stationary!

Edit - already beaten by Cjd and John...
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Edited by Blaamand - 04/01/2015 11:47 am
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Posted 04/01/2015   11:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Gibbons references India in relation to Bushire in at least two places.

In the Bushire listings, it says that troops returned to Bushire in 1916, but mail was carried by Indian Army F.P.O. No. 319.

In the India used in Iran section at the end of India, it says a post office was maintained in Bushire from May 1, 1864 to April 1, 1923, and the cancels in Bushire were "308" "26" (also used elsewhere) and "K-5".

So something else to look for.
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Edited by Cjd - 04/01/2015 12:00 pm
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Posted 04/01/2015   12:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ClassicalStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Unless a stamp is accompanied by a recent certificate, assume it is a forgery.

I have gathered a few images of genuine and forgeries here:

http://stampforgeries.com/forged-st...-of-bushire/
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Posted 04/01/2015   12:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Blaamand to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Cjd - Thanks for sharing that info - I did only have the 'K-5' in my postmark-database for India.

ClassicalStamps - thanks for the link. btw - I aquired my example from an ebay seller in Denmark... I assumed it to be forgery but I still wanted a spacefiller.
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Posted 04/03/2015   09:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PoStat4evR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK, thanks for all the info. Learn something new everyday! To continue this.... I have yet to see any of the postal stationery. I have 3 emails out to big time collectors in the UK, but haven't heard back from them as yet. Will advise when I do.

Next, after linking to the links provided and a few I found on my own, India sees to have gotten into the game (thanks cjd). I can only assume that all one will find on this route are cancels on current items of that period. I relooked through all of my India stuff, nothing.

I will probably never be able to afford any of this stuff, but one can dream......
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Posted 11/01/2018   5:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Halfpenny Yellow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I recently purchased this Bushire stamp, can any members help me identify if it is genuine or a forgery please?


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Posted 11/01/2018   5:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There was a thread about these…..
https://goscf.com/t/61696&SearchTerms=Bushire
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Posted 11/01/2018   6:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think your stamp is Genuine.All the overprints can be traced too one of the 5
settings.Provided one is Lucky enough to find the same setting on a stamp.So here is
my analysis.IMO…

From Feldman Auction lot 50577
http://www.stampcircuit.com/fr/stam...d-feldman-sa



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Posted 11/01/2018   8:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Halfpenny Yellow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks a lot! :)
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