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Any List Of US Or British Self Adhesive Stamps List

 
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Posted 05/29/2015   06:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add aamerjamal to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi, I want to know that is there any list of US and UK self adhesive stamps.
and any home made trick to remove the self adhesive, as i'm from pakistan and can't find citrus extract anywhere.
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Posted 05/29/2015   09:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikeyPikey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
aamerjamal, Greetings:


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... is there any list of US and UK self adhesive stamps ...


What a lovely opportunity for you to contribute to the hobby!

You could make the list, and post it online!

In other words: I could not find one when I went looking for one, either.

https://pnc3.org/ ... features checklists of stamps issued in coil format, distinguishing WAG (Water Activated Gum) from PSA (Pressure Sensitive Adhesive) ... coil stamps are a narrow subset of all stamps, but I would never want to miss a chance to promote PNC collecting, and its club, and it gives you a place to start.

Or, you could wait for someone to post a link to a useful list ;)

As to PSA methodologies, the short version is that there are many organic solvents that will soften the adhesive, but no one knows what their residues will do to the stamp (paper, ink) over the long run, or even whether the slight out-gassing from that residue will affect other stamps in that same album, stock book, etc.

Folks who have seen stamps damaged by tape, hinge, etc, are more leery of experimenting with these solvents than the innocent.

I vote for trimming (the excess paper near the stamp) and hinging, though I find myself doing a lot of trimming and never getting around to the hinging, but that's me.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey
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Posted 05/29/2015   2:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Regarding the GB self-adhesives...If it is all GB self-adhesives you want to know about, and you have lots of them, then I would say that it might be worthwhile getting a Stanley Gibbons Collect British Stamps... usually costing around 14 UK pounds... and that lists all the stamps issued in all formats.

Many GB stamps were issued in both gummed and self-adhesive formats. Some sets were gummed and only specific stamps from that set were issued as self-adhesives as well. They are all listed in that checklist.

If only Definitives knowledge is required then www.adminware.ca/machin/m_sa.htm has all the self-adhesive Machins listed.
Stanley Gibbons say that GB self-adhesives should only be collected on piece... as ikeyPikey says you can trim them to look good.
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Posted 05/29/2015   9:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scotzm, since Stanley Gibbons is a stamp seller, it is in their financial interest to tell you that GB self-adhesives should only be collected on piece. British self adhesive stamps are, in fact, not easy to properly clean. It certainly is not cost effective for a stamp dealer to clean these stamps for sale.

However, as a bookbinder and book restorer, I see the irreversible damage that leaving self-adhesive material alone does to paper on a continuing basis. So, for me, If a stamp is good enough for my collection, it is going to be cleaned so that it will remain a nice stamp.
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Posted 05/29/2015   11:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikeyPikey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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... as a bookbinder and book restorer, I see the irreversible damage that leaving self-adhesive material alone does to paper on a continuing basis ...


Q/ In what contexts, and for what applications, were Pressure-Sensitive Adhesives used in old(er) books? Library identification?

Q/ And, what do *you* use to get them off?

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey
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Posted 05/30/2015   12:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is not the binder or manufacturer who uses self-adhesives, but the desperate owner who seeks to mend pages, or to keep the book in its case. The result is always the same, more or less, because the self-adhesive layer will stabilize by first liquefying, and then crystallizing in the paper. If lighter fluid is applied soon enough (before the self-adhesive starts the process of stabilizing) then the material can be removed with varying degrees of success. I am a hand bookbinder; I am not a chemist.

Not to put too fine a point on it, some modern book manufacturers (not bookbinders) do use self-adhesive materials to attach their end papers. Manufacturers are not concerned with archival qualities, but with cost and speed. In repairing the book, sometimes the end papers are replaced, and sometimes the material can be removed without major work.

Animal hide glue was used as the principal adhesive for books, prior to the modern era (1980) when most bindings were sewn. Today, hand bookbinders use flexible PVA (polyvinyl acetate), wheat paste, and animal hide glue, mainly.
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Posted 05/30/2015   03:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sure...it is a personal preference for me to collect used GB self-adhesives trimmed. To take your methodology and bookbindery chemical knowledge/experience, bookbndbob, to a logical conclusion, and while not disputing anything you have said as I don't know enough, then people should also clean MINT stamps as well?
At the very least, by having trimmed stamps I can still have the option to "clean", or whatever terminology applies, in the future if a system can be proved to be be safe.

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Posted 05/30/2015   11:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As a collector of modern stamps, the self-adhesive material certainly presents a "sticky" problem. I don't collect 'mint' (seems strange to use this word) self-adhesive stamps for archival reasons. Everyone has different preferences, but for me, stamps or covers with self-adhesive tape or gum remaining on them don't have a good future. As a young collector, I did my share of damage to mint stamps using crystal mounts and PM mounts; lesson learned.

The earlier self-adhesive stamps of most countries (France is one exception) had a soluble layer of material between the paper and the 'gum' which appeared to be PVA. At some point, the postal authorities figured out that too many people were soaking and reusing these stamps, so they just eliminated the soluble layer and made the stamps un-soakable. Thus, we have a big problem for collectors of modern used stamps.

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