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How Do You Decide What The Limits Are For Your Collection?

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Posted 06/12/2015   2:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ronv to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think we as stamp collectors are alike in some ways. We, first of all are "collectors". My stamp collection is totally undefined.I have no self discipline at all. If I have a stamp in my hand... any stamp, then I want to collect it and anything associated with it. I like to buy bulk lots and collections on ebay as well as mail auctions so anything may show up and when it does.. I collect it.
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Posted 06/12/2015   2:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TheArtfulHinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Satan keeps tempting me to embrace the entire world and start a classic WW collection (e.g., Big Blue albums) but so far I've been able to resist, probably because I have no free time anyway.

He's tempting me with the same! My current focus (at least dollar-wise) is Germany and all related areas. At some point, probably within 3-5 years, the only items left on my want list will probably cost north of $50-$100 per stamp and up. While I will probably continue to plug away at those as conditions allow, my collecting bug won't be satisified with just a stamp or two here and there. I'm not sure what I'll do at that point, whether I'll want to specialize further into Germany (postal history, booklets and se-tenants and the like), start on a new country or region, or just start a WW classic collection. I'm far from exhausting the more affordable German-area stamps, however, so it's going to be a little while yet before this decision is forced upon me.
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Posted 06/12/2015   2:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ringo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Well, perhaps on that Other Stamp Collecting Forum, but not here on SCF. I suppose you missed the thread where we were all instructed that to collect one's own country is narrowminded and jingoistic because you will (necessarily, it seems) ignore all the wretched, evil, unjust, racist, misogynistic, homophobic things your country has done and uncritically swallow the propaganda on stamps. Stamps are nothing but propaganda and always distort history, in case you did not realize that.

Only by collecting countries other than your own country can you atone for your country's sins,

Well, there's still hope for you. You can repent and undergo reeducation and once more become a productive member of Society by collecting the Trucials and Oltra Giube. (But that's still jingoistic because it's collecting by countries, even a dead country. Far better to go All Topical All the Time.)

For some of us there's no hope because we are unrepentant.

The choice is yours.
/sarc


Not to get off topic, but I will reply - I think stamps are used for propaganda and do distort history. If you see Chinese stamps covered in red flags, then you're seeing state propaganda. And you see Soviet stamps with images of Marx and Lenin, and German flags from the 30s with swastikas - it's all using them for political propaganda. Likewise you see American stamps with the US flag and the Statue of Liberty, and in my country, the monarch's head on every single stamp - it's just the same.

But collecting stamps isn't a political act. As it happens, I do collect Trucial States, also Persia (Iran), British Commonwealth - even a small set of international revolutionaries - so pick the politics out of that lot! It's just stamps, not a belief system.
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Posted 06/12/2015   3:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hutin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Satan collect stamps??
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Posted 06/12/2015   3:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TheArtfulHinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I think stamps are used for propaganda and do distort history

Well, postal administrations are always going to put that country's best face on its stamps. I think that almost goes without saying. While I suppose stamps "commemorating" the slave trade, lynchings, labor riots, and the My Lai Massacre, among other things, would provide a bit more balance to the historical picture painted by US stamps, we won't be seeing those subjects depicted anytime soon. Stamps are always going to give a superficial (at best) picture of the issuing country. If stamps were the only thing we looked at for Nazi Germany, for example, we'd come away with just the idea that they liked famous people, horses, mothers, soldiers, buildings and opera, among other things. Now, if one were to then look up additional information on the people or events pictured on those stamps, one would then get a more complete picture, but stamps themselves are never going to be much more than a springboard from which to learn more. The fact that stamps are just propaganda is not bothersome as long as people don't just take it at face value.
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Posted 06/12/2015   3:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hieronymus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The fact that stamps are just propaganda


Can we let go of the absolutizing? It is not a fact that stamps are just propaganda. Things can be more than one thing at a time. They can be propaganda and at the same time truthful history, depending on how much critical, thoughtful mindset one brings to them.

Making distinctions, thinking carefully about what may not appear on the surface is supposedly one of the rewards of collecting stamps from places unfamiliar. I tried the reductio ad absurdum to point out how unwise it is to make things all or nothing.

After all the nuanced advice to OP about "there are no absolute limits, you can collect what you want, don't let anyone tell you otherwise," a refrain I have seen on dozens of SCF threads, here are are, right back at the beginning with the claim that "its a fact that stamps are nothing but propaganda." Which is an awfully limiting sort of thing to assert.

I very seriously doubt that Artful even meant to say that stamps are nothing but propaganda. But that's what the quoted phrase means.

Words mean things.


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Posted 06/12/2015   4:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TheArtfulHinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I very seriously doubt that Artful even meant to say that stamps are nothing but propaganda.

I should have said "even if" stamps are nothing but propaganda. I was humoring Ringo for a second there, but I don't believe that stamps are "nothing but" propaganda. Best foot forward? Sure, and there's nothing wrong with that. "Propaganda" is probably too strong a word.
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Posted 06/12/2015   9:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add oldguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I started collecting stamps when my best friend show me some "Tin Can" mail covers his uncle had given him. When I mentioned that to my father, he said he had been a collector and give me his collection.... all US in boxes of unsorted stamps and envelops from the 20's and 30's. I eventually bought a couple of albums... Harris Liberty Album and Harris Statesman.

The unintended consequences of working on the two albums made me the one of the smartest kids in class in civic (no longer taught) and world geography and counties. While I couldn't read, write or figure, I did know my history and geography.

Without the limitless borders of stamp collecting, who knows what I might have done and where I might have wound up. We moved a lot and frequently. Stamp collecting became my best friend and was always there when we moved to a new location.
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Posted 06/12/2015   9:43 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Trying to distinguish between "commemorating" and "propaganda" is a very fine line to walk... it all depends on the perspective of the viewer.
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Posted 06/12/2015   9:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add amccleaf1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My limits are self-defined and always changing. I generally collect the world used and limit myself to one example of each stamp that is easily affordable. Oh, and varieties, if I find any. And shades, yes, different shades. Oh, also interesting cancels, including bullseyes. I avoid CTOs and wallpaper, just because they are less interesting to me.

And I collect 7-1-71 covers, limited to the 3 states in which I have lived, just to keep it affordable.

I limit the size of my albums by printing my own pages (thank you, Bill Steiner), and I only print the pages for which I have stamps.

So, some limits, not many, and still having lots of fun, especially comparing overall cost to entertainment value. Limit yourself to things that make you happy.

Alan
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Posted 06/12/2015   11:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tlmcca to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Satan collect stamps??


Yeah, but just HELLenic.
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Posted 06/12/2015   11:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tlmcca to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
...but seriously, thanks for sharing. I'll just add that if wasn't for budgetary restraints I'd be buying tons of kiloware and just go nuts.

Terry
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Posted 06/13/2015   12:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add guykickinit to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
mmm... kiloware!
Yes, good times. I prefer to buy lots that come from other collectors. Especially the lots that have been donated, so they are much cheaper by comparison.
My albums are limited by what pages I have. My overall collection has no bounds beyond budget. However I have no budget, so I'm not really sure how I ended up with all these stamps. The stamp fairy must have left them.
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Posted 06/13/2015   08:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jimjung to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I try to keep to only issues that I really enjoy and that I know alot about. I know alot about early Canada so I only collect that. WHen I need something new, I am very specific about what I collect.

I do like all stamps but for my own collection, it has to be something that I enjoy very much.

I also like looking through large quantities of stamps, sorting them and trying to find scarce stamps and printing errors. So I might buy a large Worldwide lot that has been just accumulated and not picked. Just a bunch of cartons stuffed with stamps. albums, etc.
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Posted 06/14/2015   12:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add HungaryForStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The worldwide temptation comes in many forms, but the most insidious are the occasional overstuffed big blue albums for auction. The classic European colonies, Australia, or South America are a potential gateway to further sinning. The giant bust of St Stephen, a cross, and cloves of garlic strung about my desk are keeping me sane for the moment.
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