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Posted 06/27/2015   12:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add stampfan9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I could not find this stamp listed in my or my local library Scott's postage stamp catalogue so I am asking the learned members of the forum for help in identifying this stamp.



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Posted 06/27/2015   01:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Philatarium to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's a little hard to give you an exact catalog number, because this was from a long-running definitive series (called the "Koban" series"), that was printed on different papers (with different watermarks), and different-sized dies. But look in the Scott catalog in the 115-145a area, where the series is listed 3 ways.

If I were forced to take a guess, I'd say that looks like white paper (Western paper), and that denomination would be 129b. But do check for watermark, maybe measure the die, etc, for a more accurate determination.

Hope that's helpful!
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Posted 06/27/2015   01:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampfan9 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Philatarium, Your advice is helpful and Thank you kindly.
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Posted 06/27/2015   01:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Philatarium to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You bet!
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Posted 10/12/2015   5:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamppaige to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just got a bunch of older Japanese stamps in. I see this thread a bit older but the stamp looks to me like a typographed "Tarawa" series from August 31, 1913 light blue. I'm just reading up a bit and thought I'd chime in. You probably already new this.
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Posted 10/12/2015   8:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampfan9 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Again, and as always great information from the forum-Thanks, Stamppaige.
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Posted 10/13/2015   06:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add blazenstar to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This information may be helpful: The perforations for 1913, Japan Scott 117, color is light blue is Perf. 12, 12x13, 13 x 13 1/2, unwatermarked, 1914-25, Japan Scott 129, is blue has a zigzag lines watermark noted for this specific stamp which is (Watermark141), with granite paper, size: 19 x 22 1/2mm (old die) and the 1924-33 (new die) (flat plate) or 18x22 1/2mm (Rotary)Japan Scott 129b is blue color too.
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Posted 10/24/2015   11:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add unechan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Some additional information for identification ;

As already has been mentioned, this Tazawa 1.5sen stamp could be further categorized to the following four stamps, depending on the paper, watermark, die and pressing method.

- No watermark / white paper / old die : Scott #117 / JSSC #133
- Taisho Watermark (Wmk 141) / granite paper / old die : Scott #129 / JSSC #144
- Taisho Watermark (Wmk 141) / granite paper / new die /rotary press : Scott #129b / JSSC #159
- Taisho Watermark (Wmk 141) / granite paper / new die /flat plate press : Scott #129b / JSSC #168

(JSSC = Japanese Stamp Specialized Catalogue; Note that Scott catalogue number for the latter two are identical (at least in my old 1977 version))



The nominal size of the die is as follows;

- old die : 19.0 x 22.5 mm
- new die, rotary : 18.5 x 22.5 mm
- new die, flat : 18.5 x 22.0 mm

So the easiest way for distinguishing the stamp would be;

1) Paper type ; if it does not contain any coloured fiber (i.e. white paper), that is Scott #117. If it is granite, go to step 2).

2) measure the width of the printed area. If it is 19mm, that is Scott #129, if it is smaller than 19mm, go to step 3). The difference between old die and new die could be best identified by comparing the width; the difference is quite evident. The overall appearance of the stamp is also quite different, as the new die shows wider margin in general.

3) measure the height of the printed area. If it is larger than 22mm, that is Scott #129b with rotary print (JSSC #159). If smaller than 22mm, that is Scott #129b with flat plate print (JSSC #168). The actual size of the printed area has a certain variation and for Tazawa 1.5 sen stamp it is about 18.3mm x 22.1-22.3mm for rotary print and about 18.3mm x 21.8-22.0mm for flat plate print. And the difference in the height is quite significant.



Another checkpoint would be the cherry blossom petal on the left side (above "1 1/2"); most of the Scott #129b with rotary print (JSSC #159) stamp has a "blob" in the lower petal of the right flower.



The color variation would be also help, and we can generally say that the latter issues tend to have lighter shade. However we have to be careful as there could be significant variety in the shades even within the same main catalogue number. For example, JSSC further subdivides #168 to three varieties (light blue, deep dull blue and new blue).

According to the posted image, I assume that the stamp is likely to be Scott #129b with flat plate print (JSSC #168); it has rather large margin, there's no blob in the petal, and the shade is quite light. I appreciate if you can confirm this by checking the paper and measuring the printed area !

Another interesting thing about this stamp is the cancellation. This is a part of a slogan cancel saying "Use standard envelope for letters", used between 1925 and 1938. Here's how the whole cancellation looks like;



Happy collecting !

unechan@Osaka, Japan
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Posted 10/25/2015   09:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampfan9 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
blazenstar and unechan, Many thanks for the great and useful information. unechan, That is one beautiful cover.
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Posted 10/26/2015   09:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dianne Earl to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wonderful post unechan It's collectors like you that make this site so wonderful

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