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Posted 07/01/2015   8:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Scottamer to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I know the topic of scanning has come up a few times on the forum and there is always a bunch of interest. So I thought I would let you know that I just added a blog post on this topic to my FlySpecker.com site. I am letting you know this because a scanner that I have had success with and recommend in the blog post is on sale at Best Buy in Canada for only one more day.

I invite you to read the post and head over to the Best Buy site if you are interested in the inexpensive (about $80) Canon scanner I recommend.

Happy Canada Day!
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Posted 07/01/2015   9:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott..Nice scans buddy...
I use my USB microscope for close in details..Works better for me, but I am hunting now for a new scanner..My old one only goes to 2400 DPI..Need something around 9600 DPI to do better scans.

BTW..When are you accepting flyspecking from ALL stamps, or is that way too much to handle..?

Robert
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Posted 07/01/2015   9:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
FANTASTIC SITE...Scott add a link again to your site for others who dont know about it yet

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Posted 07/02/2015   05:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add watermark to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott's web page is http://flyspecker.com/ and is a great reference tool in the development. He is adding new material to it as time permits. I have added it to my favorites list. Keep up the good work Scott.
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Posted 07/02/2015   06:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Scottamer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The link to the blog page specific to stamp scanning is http://flyspecker.com/post004.html. Do check it out if you are looking for a scanner. The Best Buy sale on my recommended model ends today.
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Posted 07/02/2015   06:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott,
Good job on the site.
I would add that it is critical that the scanner lid ALWAYS be closed. Your blog mention holding down the stamp but the critical reason is that the prevents ambient light from being detected by, and compensate for, the scanner. Scan a stamp with the lid on and off to see the delta, it is usually significantly different. (Depends a bit on the light levels in the room.)
Scanner manufacturers, calibrate, and optimize scanners with the lids closed. If ambient light didn't matter, manufacturers certainly would save money and not include a lid!
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Posted 12/30/2017   11:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add techwriter to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well I agree on the CLOSED scanner lid; once in a while however I leave the lid open for large documents. Anyway, here's are three scans with the lid closed
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Here's one with the lid OPEN

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Posted 12/30/2017   11:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add techwriter to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Oh, one more with lid OPEN
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Posted 12/31/2017   10:30 am  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Isolated images with lid open or closed don't really tell us anything. Showing the same item scanned open vs. closed would.

That said, it depends on the scanner and the software used as to what happens when the lid is open vs. closed. Personally, from a purely mechanical/operational perspective, I find it faster and easier to scan with the lid open. Of course, this doesn't work if the scanner software is making algorthmic adjustments based on ambient light, and more annoyingly the selected area to scan (try it: with most scanning software, you will get hugely varying results of brightness and color depending on how large or small an area around the item in question is selected).

So what I do is disable all of the algorithmic processing, which I can do with Hamrick VueScan, whereas you cannot turn it off with most software bundled with the scanner. Lid up or lid down, black paper, white paper, gray paper background, VueScan doesn't alter the scan results by averaging/optimizing the selected scan area. It just scans at its baseline settings and applies whatever adjustment you have applied in the profile, nothing else.
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Posted 12/31/2017   10:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
https://stampsmarter.org/features/C..._Images.html

About half way down is a scan with lid closed and lid open to show the difference.

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Posted 12/31/2017   12:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Renden to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott's blog link does not work

Thanks Don for Stampsmarter's scan write-up....even I could understand it

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Posted 12/31/2017   1:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don..Went to stampsmarter and took one of my stamps..Scanned it and lightened one up...as though it were say newer..Ran it through your program..Can you tell me what I am looking at..

Thanks, Robert




This is how I classify colours with a number.
Left stamp "colour name:#DA5447"



Right stamp "colour name: # 511C17"



WISH THERE WAS A STANDARD ON COLOUR CLASSIFICATION.
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Posted 01/01/2018   2:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Scottamer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For those who are interested, the correct link to my blog post about scanning stamps is:

http://flyspecker.com/post004.html

I have recommended the Canon CanoScan LiDE 220 to several of my stamp friends who contribute to my site and they have been very pleased with their purchase.
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Posted 01/01/2018   5:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Scottamer

i also use a Canon, but go one step further and use a image manipulation program to get more detail...The bottom stamp is worked on to enhance the right stamp in your right up..Helps for better detail..Just saying.

Robert

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Posted 01/04/2018   3:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Scottamer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Robert,

Analysing the accuracy and usefulness of a scan is certainly very subjective. However, as a professional in the treatment of scanned images, I would say that your enhanced scan is definitely less accurate and any new details revealed there are more from enhanced grain in the paper than actual details in the inking of the stamp. The fluid lines in the leaf that express the engraver's artistic treatment are completely lost in the enhanced scan where they become disjointed pixels mixed with artificially enhanced paper features.

Don't get me wrong, subtle sharpening of scans done with professional image software will usually improve them and is done for almost all professional print publication. Colour manipulation can also help to differentiate between stamp ink and cancellation marks. However harsh sharpening of scans has never, in my opinion, improved the level of detail or clarity of the engraved design.
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Posted 01/04/2018   4:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I dislike the use of image processing especially if the processing is adding data to the image (removing data, such as splitting channels is typically not an issue). In additional to the sharpening issue that Scottamer mentions, there is also an abundancy of over-saturated images found online.

It is as if some folks do not realize that when they manipulate images they are optimizing the image based upon how it looks only on their own monitor.
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