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Found This Stamps In A Houes. Cochin Good Or Junk?

 
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Posted 07/09/2015   07:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add johnnygu to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
found this in a house I bought . is it only junk to trow away or are the of any value for a colector?

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Posted 07/09/2015   07:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jimjung to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here are some for sale for various prices, generally low. But India is a popular country to collect.

http://www.delcampe.net/items?langu...5B0%5D=19681
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Posted 07/09/2015   07:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add duncanvr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don't throw the stamps away give them to a dealer or collector.
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Posted 07/09/2015   07:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add johnnygu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
oh thank you that helps alot for me that know nothing about this things
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Posted 07/09/2015   08:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The only one with any possible value is the 2 Pies. Check the watermark: it may be a small umbrella, or part of a large sheet watermark or nothing. If the stamp is unused, as it appears to be, and it has the small umbrella (it can be hard to see: you may need watermark fluid; the paper is quite white and fine-grained), it's SG 85 and listed at £9; if it has the large sheet watermark, or no watermark (the paper is a bit toned and coarse), it's SG 86 and listed at £45. Both prices are from the 2015 Gibbons.

The 1 Anna 3 Pies is listed with a double overprint; your copy is not it. It is a plain SG O82, listed at 20p. The 2 Annas is SG 59 listed at £2.25, but seriously over-valued. The 3 Pies on 6 Pies looks like SG 96 and is listed at 20p; if the stamp is perf 11, it's SG 96a, and listed at 85p.
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Posted 07/09/2015   11:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add johnnygu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thank you very much. I will look closer at the stamp when I get home a very big thanks.
i will check the rest of the stamps found a old collection in the house I bougt
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Posted 07/09/2015   6:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add johnnygu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

hello again I took a look at the stamp and it looks like it has 6 little holes in it just above the head of the man

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Posted 07/09/2015   8:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You probably have a 'D' perfin, like this one:



The 'D' stands for 'Dewaswom', the temple administration in Cochin. 'D' is the commonest perfin, and it appears to occur on most of the lower face value stamps of the State. I wasn't able to find an example on the 2 Pies of this set, but here it is on the (very common) 6 Pies value:



As you can see, the perfin was applied in any old direction.
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Posted 07/10/2015   04:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add johnnygu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello again. you really know your thing about this. But I cant get the holes to become a "D" I marked them with black.

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Posted 07/10/2015   8:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It looks to me as if you have two partial Ds, struck at the very top/bottom of the stamp.

There are other perfins known on Cochin stamps, but this still looks like the most probable explanation. Whoever it was applied the D perfin didn't seem to worry about position or direction: as long as the stamp was rendered unusable outside the temple administration, they don't seem to have cared. You can see from this block of the Second Raja 10 Pies



how much attention they paid to squaring the perfin on the stamp ...
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Posted 07/27/2015   4:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cochinfan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This looks to me like a partial CT/TC perfin. The spacing and needle size look right. Many CT/TC (or TC/CT) perfins in my collection have partial letters piercing the stamp, blind letters making dents in the stamp but not penetrating, and/or letters missing altogether.

I am a new member who has yet to submit a comment (unsure how to do so.)

I believe the perfin in question is not two partial "D's", but rather an incomplete "CT/TC" (or "TC/CT:). In my collection, this latter perfin is often found in later years with the first two letters ("C/T"), incomplete and the second two, "T/C", missing, incomplete or blind (needle leaving an indentation but not penetrating the stamp.)
With either watermark, the basic perf 13 x 13-1/2 2 pies stamp of Kerala Varma II is fairly common. I have not seen any with either perfin.
To any collector of Cochin perfins, this item would be of interest.

F Lamm (Cochinfan)
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Posted 07/27/2015   5:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cochinfan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I should have noted two things: 1. a look at the back of this stamp may be helpful in perfin identification, and 2. as far as price is concerned, I don't believe this is mint or unused. If it were a mint, gummed example, Cochin perfin collectors would be very interested.
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Posted 07/28/2015   12:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It could very well be a TC perfin: sadly, there just isn't enough of it showing to be sure one way or the other.

Here is a TC perfin on an SG 78:





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