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Posted 01/11/2017   10:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TheRebel1861 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Does a black light detect watermarks?
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Posted 01/11/2017   10:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add srailkb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 01/12/2017   3:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add joker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
sorry if I didn't read it in this thread, but can I take (cleaner's) benzine for the Washington/Franklins or are there any that are damaged by it?
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Posted 01/12/2017   3:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would not try gasoline because of the additives used. Use lighter fluid.


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Posted 01/12/2017   4:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add joker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
hello Peter,

perhaps it's my english language confusion :), but here in Germany the most common thing is just benzine ("Wundbenzin") which I buy at the pharmacy and has no additives at all. but some stamps don't like benzine, so I asked, if perhaps in the Scott there are any comments about the Franklin/washington and benzine.
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Posted 01/12/2017   4:58 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Benzine was the fluid traditionally used when I started collecting.
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Posted 01/12/2017   5:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Go ahead and use it. Best thing though is watermark detection fluid. Benzine, gasoline and lighter fluids are dangerous though!


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Benzene is a carcinogen. There are safer alternatives.



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Posted 01/13/2017   03:39 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 01/13/2017   06:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tommtomm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hihi, yes you better shouldn't use benzene (C6H6) - that has nothing to do with the German "Wundbenzin".
I think the US term is "rubbing alcohol", in GB it's called "surgical spirit".
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Posted 01/13/2017   1:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Alan B to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"Wundbenzin" translates as "rubbing alcohol" or "surgical spirits". Alternatively, it is isopropyl alcohol or sometimes ethyl alcohol. It is not to be used on open wounds or for consumption. There are warnings about inhaling it. Poisoning can occur from ingestion, inhalation, absorption, or consumption. (Thank you Wikipedia) I would suggest not using it for those reasons, totally independent of what it might do to stamps.
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Posted 01/13/2017   7:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add essayk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In the US, rubbing alcohol is isopropyl alcohol and it is of no value for detecting watermarks. It is good for removing gum from mint stamps however. Do you have access to naphthalene aka "lighter fluid" Leuchtoel? In the US Ronsonol brand lighter fluid is widely used.
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Posted 07/20/2017   02:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Historical DNA Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well, I'm glad that this thread is still alive. Alan B: I agree that the other position is more accurate.
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Posted 07/20/2017   04:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ddaann to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I used carbon tetrachloride for many years. Not sure it is available any more, and it's evil stuff but it worked great. Now I use Ronsonol Lighter Fluid as mentioned by essayk, by pouring a small amount over the stamp, in a black watermark dish. For many stamps the watermark is visible by simply placing the stamp gum-side up on a black surface or holding it against a bright light.
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Posted 07/20/2017   11:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redwoodrandy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Carbon tetrachloride poison and cancer hazard.




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Edited by redwoodrandy - 07/20/2017 11:21 am
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