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Austro-Hungarian Postal Rates

 
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Posted 08/16/2015   01:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add owenthom to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Anyone out there have a chart of the postal rates for the Austro-Hungarian empire from 1867 to 1918?

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Posted 08/16/2015   2:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bamra1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From 1867-1873 the internal letter rate was:
3kr per loth for local delivery, otherwise 5kr per loth.
Postcard rate was 2kr (there was no separate postal rate for PCs before 1869.)

From 1873-1899 the internal letter rate was:
For local delivery 3kr up to 15grams, 6kr above 15g; beyond local was 5k up t0 15g, 10k above.
Postcard rate remained 2kr.

From 1900-1916 the internal letter rate was in heller:
For local delivery 6heller up to 20grams, 12h above 20g; beyond local was 10h up to 20g, 20h above.
Postcard rate 5h.

1916-18 the local rate was abolished. All letters were 15h to 20g and 5h extra for every additional 20g. Postcards were 10h.

If you have any specific needs, I can dig you out newspaper rates, express and registration rates, reply paid and postage due charges. Also external rates after 1873 - before that is a bit more problematic.

I will be as helpful as possible, but the reply "Yes please, I'd like ALL of those" is unlikely to evince general rejoicing at this end.

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Posted 08/16/2015   2:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bamra1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I should point out that throughout this period mail to Germany was regarded as Internal Rate.
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Posted 08/16/2015   8:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add owenthom to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rejoice Bamra 1! What you have provided is perfectly wonderful. Thank you
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Posted 08/19/2015   03:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add florian to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From Oct. 1, 1916 until Aug. 31, 1918 the internal postal card rate as distinct from the internal postcard one was 8 hellers.

See Frame 9: pp. 131/221, 132/221, and 134/221 on http://www.exponet.info/exhibit.php...=1018&lng=CZ
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Posted 08/19/2015   06:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bamra1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My apologies (I didn't read the footnote! ) Florian is correct. Between those dates what we now usually refer to as Postal Stationery Cards were given a concessionary rate of 8 heller, as against the 'normal' postcard rate of 10 heller.
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Thank you all, excellent information
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Posted 08/19/2015   4:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Austria Netto Katalog has a good list of postal rates
in their Österreich Spezialkatalog editions.

The ANK is an excellent catalogue, reasonably priced
and invaluable for anyone who collects Austrian stamps.
But it is only in German.

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Posted 08/20/2015   04:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add florian to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just splendid; thanks, lithograving.

Even Drucksachen = Printed Matter / Imprimé rates are included although I miss those in effect as from Jan. 1, 1900, which started at 3h for internal postcards and at 5h for external ones (a concession to collectors exchanging picture postcards among others).

The 8h Ga(nzsache) = Postal Stationery Card rate was a concession to all those suffering from wartime dearth and misery. Never had all the space available in these cheap cards exchanged between relatives and friends been crammed full of descriptions in small handwriting of desperate economies concerning food, clothing, footware, heating, etc. made by wives of soldiers at the front or in P.o.W. camps, and even information exchanged between wives of badly missed shopkeepers on supplies of goods (such as shoes with wooden soles) arriving at their nearly empty shops. All these items make an interesting collection. Officers at the front often sent their pay to their wives at home to help them make both ends meet. Some of them even franked their mail even though it always arrived rubberstamped by censors at the receiving end.
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@florian


I was wondering what word the abbreviation Ga stood for
since I couldn't find any reference to it in the catalogue.

When I looked in the catalogues' list of abbreviations
it shows the word Ganzsache abbreviated by GS



Is there any chance that Ga is the abbreviation
for another word instead of Ganzsache ?
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Posted 08/21/2015   04:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add florian to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
lithograving - I automatically took the abbreviation Ga as Ganzsachen because a similar table in Czech mentions the 8h rate as applying to "celinové dopisnice" = Postal Stationery Cards. On second thoughts I wondered why not GS but then seeing there was no full stop after the Ga I remembered the abbreviation Reco and stopped thinking about it.

It is only now that I notice the same Ga used in ab Zeitpunkt: 1.01.1900: Postkarten: Ausland: 10 H. (Ga 5 H.) = as from: 01.01.1900: Postcards: External: 10h (Ga 5h) which does puzzle me.

Here I could only explain the 5h rate as applying to external Printed Matter / Imprimé postcards but on the other hand there is no mention of the 3h internal Printed Matter / Imprimé postcard rate.
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