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German Reich Stamps ''priced''high By , My Late Grandpa

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Posted 08/31/2015   1:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add alexandra555 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
hello and thank you for accespting me on this forum
Recently I have enherited a colecttion of stamps, most of them are catalogued and priced by my grandpa , amoungst them I found thsi falowing stamps witch seme to be valued by my grandpa and a enormouss price
I couldnt find the douyble overprint I think is called anywhere on the internet
Any suggesttions would be great!





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Posted 08/31/2015   1:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Alexandra, and a very welcome to this forum! That is a beautiful collection of mis-prints your grandfather left you. I do not know much about these, but we have an expert on this forum by the name of "Postmaster". Hopefully he will chime in soon!

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Posted 08/31/2015   2:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stampalotapus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice, I am anticipating to hear more about these.

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Posted 08/31/2015   4:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These items are real keepers. Check out these auction results from 2011: http://www.cherrystoneauctions.com/...country=SAAR
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Posted 08/31/2015   4:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EasyOne to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the forum Alexandra. These are great specimens from a part of the world with a really mixed and fascinating history. Your grandfather has a fine eye.
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Posted 08/31/2015   4:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ALEX --You need to contact one of the major stamp auction firms in Germany . They will need to see the actual stamps and may require that those stamps be expertized before they place them in a public auction ,you can expect that it will be 4 to 8 months for the whole process goes thru before funds are send to you . If they are fakes and returned to you, them you still sell them with the bad certificates on the internet .Even if they are not real they still have a value .
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Posted 08/31/2015   5:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ekbustad to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I assume that the notes in your images are from your Grandfather. They refer to listings in the Michel Deutschland-Spezial Katalog, which is the "Bible" for collectors of German stamps. The catalog is in German, but is not difficult to understand even if you don't know the German language.

Looking in my copy (2010 edition), I see catalog values a bit higher than he noted.
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Posted 08/31/2015   5:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting collection of double overprints and inverted overprints. Since many of these stamps are used, one will have to look closely at both the overprints and postmarks to see whether the postmarks were applied over the overprints or the overprints were applied over the postmarks. If the overprints were applied over the postmarks then the overprints were added later to make the stamps more valuable. Expertization is very important to get for these stamps.
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Posted 08/31/2015   9:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I believe most of these are forgeries. I'll take a closer look this weekend when I get access to a screen larger than my iPad.
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Posted 09/01/2015   02:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jenny2U to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
German double overprints which I have seen are not spaced as widely apart as on these stamps. I look forward to PostmasterGS' further opinion.
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Posted 09/01/2015   06:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alexandra555 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all for the kind asnwers and opinions
the collecttion is a litlle larger bgut I have cjhosed the ones that semed to have large value in my late grandpas opnion
I could not find his Michael album amoungst his things
there is also a 3Pf with a double overprint!!
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Posted 09/01/2015   10:05 am  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is important to understand that the majority of overprinted stamps from this series that are currently on the market today are forgeries. The original stamps (without overprints) are very common, so it is quite easy (and profitable) to turn common stamps into expensive stamps by overprinting them with an uncommon, if not rare, overprint.

Here is an article on the postal history of Saar. It is quite fascinating!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posta..._of_the_Saar

Brian
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Posted 09/01/2015   10:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Please get those stamps expertized from someone who knows the material. Don't rely on anyone who is looking at poor out of focus scans on a chat room .
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Posted 09/01/2015   11:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is what you need to help expertize those stamps plus a reference manual like the GPS REFERENCE MANUAL OF FORGERIES BY BOHNE . Those scans are just too poor .

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Posted 09/01/2015   11:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
More examples to be used during testing

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Posted 09/01/2015   1:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ClassicalStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
alexandra,


Forgeries of these are very common, so don't get your hope up - just yet

A BPP certificate for these are the gold standard. I don't recommend trying to sell them without one. The current listed BPP expert for these are Christian E. Geigle:

https://www.bpp.de/de/BPP-Briefmark...-Geigle.html

An alternative is researching if they are genuine or not yourself. A lot of fun if you are into that sort of thing
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Edited by ClassicalStamps - 09/01/2015 1:23 pm
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