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Posted 09/04/2015   06:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add garypage to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
hi guys can anyone help is this plate 5? Any help appreciated

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Posted 09/04/2015   12:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stampalotapus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I can't seem to see the plate number along the sides.

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Posted 09/04/2015   12:46 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's the next issue, with letters in all four corners. You have to work harder with this group!
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Posted 09/04/2015   1:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stampalotapus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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GeoffHa - That's the next issue, with letters in all four corners. You have to work harder with this group!


Please excuse my ignorance on this matter, but I always thought that the plate number was printed along the side design of these stamps, as is the case with other GB issues of this era.

GeoffHa, for this not the same with this issue?

Please advise...

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Edited by Stampalotapus - 09/04/2015 1:44 pm
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Posted 09/04/2015   1:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stampalotapus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Pulled up from the web...


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1840 2d watermark small crown imperforate Pl 1. Issued 8th May 1840. Number issued 3,977,280. (16,572 sheets). PL2. Put to press July 27th 1840. Earliest known date used is August 18th 1840. Number issued 2,485,680. (10,357 sheets). A total of 623 from both plates spoilt in printing and destroyed. 1841 2d Watermark small crown imperforate Pl 3. First used 17th March 1849. Number issued 45,960,000 (191,500 sheets). Pl 4 put to press at the beginning of 1850. Number issued 42,000,000. (175,000 sheets).


I have not located any reference to a plate 5.

The above quote is from this link...

http://stevenallenstamps.com/news/e...-plating-aid

Still searching the web for info.

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Posted 09/04/2015   1:58 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No excusing needed - I have plenty of ignorance, believe me.

The plate numbers are incorporated in the design of the later line-engraved issues - the 1/2d rose-red, 1d red, 11/2d rose-red and 2d blue, all of which have letters in all four corners.

Plating the earlier issues requires a knowledge of the characteristics of each plate, eg differences in the letters in the lower corners of the design - as possessed by some here, but not me!

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Posted 09/04/2015   2:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stampalotapus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Dagnabbit - Just realized your's is perforated.

Revamping the search.

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Edited by Stampalotapus - 09/04/2015 2:00 pm
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Posted 09/04/2015   2:02 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
On your second comment, you're looking at the imperforate issues. The 2d blue, perforated, with stars in the top corners, was issued from 1854. It's found with plates 4, 5 and 6.
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Posted 09/04/2015   2:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The S is oriented differently on plate 4, so you can rule out plate 4.
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Posted 09/04/2015   3:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stampalotapus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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GeoffHa - Plating the earlier issues requires a knowledge of the characteristics of each plate, eg differences in the letters in the lower corners of the design - as possessed by some here, but not me!


Thank you for this information.

The more I am pulling up online the more I am finding this to be the case with this issue.

So far what I have been finding leads me to believe that garypage may be in possession of a plate 5 issue, but at this moment I have no true certainty.

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Posted 09/04/2015   3:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stampalotapus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hopefully someone can add more on this so that garypage has more definitive information, I seem to be stymied at the moment.

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Posted 09/04/2015   3:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The alphabet and white lines look consistent with plate 5 but we have some real experts here who can make that call, so I'll let it ride for now...
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Posted 09/04/2015   4:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This stamp was printed using three plates... 4,5,6
If your stamp has a Small Crown watermark then rule out plate 6 (leaving 4 and 5)
If your stamp has a Large Crown watermark then rule out plate 4 (leaving 5 and 6)
....or...
plate 4 has alphabet 1 letters
plate 5 has alphabet 2 letters
plate 6 has alphabet 3 letters
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Posted 09/04/2015   4:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ldhaber to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like plate 5.
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Posted 09/04/2015   5:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Alphabet 1 plate 4
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Posted 09/04/2015   6:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

OOps...I looked at the wrong SL before... this is the one I should have referred to and it is plate 5.
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