Hard To Identify Danish Stamp

Good Day !
Anyone can help out to identify the cat# of this vintage denmark's stamp ? Is weird to see the watermark on this design.




Thanks In Advance

Hi Ken,

Interesting item. When I look in Scott, I would map this stamp to the A3 Design and thus would consider it as Scott 4 (Dotting in spandrels). Per the catalogue this would then have Wmk 111 (Small Crown). Are you feeling this watermark is not the small crown but could possibly be Wmk 112 (Larger Crown). Just trying to make sure I understand your question/meaning.

Hobsun

The watermark is definitely Wmk 111 (small crown) in the Scott catalog.

Ken will need to be more specific about what is "weird" about the watermark.

I think Ken means that the watermark in unusually prominent. There is nothing wrong with that in my experience, but such prominent watermarks are not the norm. I am with khj that the wmk looks like the Small Crown.

@Hobsun, @khj

Hobsin is right, I m feeling that this watermark is not the small crown but could possibly be Wmk 112 (Larger Crown)and also unusually prominent like what Tim H mentioned.

ccould it be Scott# 7b ?

Ken,

If I am reading the catalogue properly 7b would not be an option since this is design A4 vs A3. The stamp is A3. (Dotting in Spandrels).

Hobsun

@Hobsun
But All Type A3 do not have watermark

Ken,

I think I understand what you are looking at now and it may be a matter of how this is documented/accounted for in the catalogue itself (which could generate confusion). The Wmk 111 Small crown designation in the catalogue is located (centered above) above Scotts 1 and 2 but carries forward to Scott 3 - 8 as well since it is not listed as being changed until you get to Scott 9 which is then Wmk 112.

That is my interpretation and I am open to correction but that is how I have always read/interpreted the catalogue.

Hobsun

I'm not an expert, but I do have the appropriate catalogs. :)

It looks like the first printing, 12 Nov 1854. The burelage is correct for the 1st, 4th, 5th and 6th printings, though I'm not positive on the last two since they used the same burelage on both side of the plate. The design shows a 4 as the control number, which takes the 5th printing off the table. The 6th printing should be dark red brown, so it's out as well. The 4th printing is light yellow brown, and this doesn't look light enough to me, leaving the 1st printing (1st printing had the greatest variety of shades, running between orange, yellow brown and light chestnut). The lower right posthorn looks like it could be the recut version (plate 2, no 45) with the 3 control mark and clearer horn details. If it's the recut version the value is about ten times the normal price. You would have to get an opinion from someone more knowledgable than I am to be sure.

Either way, it's a Scott #4, not the yellow brown shade.

@billsey , thank you very much for your information & effort.

i don't have scott, but I think billsey is almost correct... it has control number 4 so can't be 5th print.

dotted spandrels.. and ALWAYS watermark 111 watermark 112 doesn't appear until 1858. with the wavy line spandrels.

this is a above average copy... with 90 numeral cancel = it's the city of Rønnede not far from Næstved a minor town.

a stamp like this is usually sold at around $5.