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1840 Penny Black Stamp... Need Any Info About It. Pics

 
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Posted 09/24/2015   12:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add sexyladi820 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello all, I am new to the site and was lucky enough to come across a Penny Black stamp. I know very little about it and was wondering if anyone can give me information on this particular stamp and its value. I greatly appreciate any information anyone can give me about its condition, and what the lettering means exactly.



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Posted 09/24/2015   1:19 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sheets of 1d blacks had letters in the lower corners of each stamp.

To have much value, a 1d black should, as well as other points, have four clear margins around the design. Yours has two. It's also very heavily postmarked, so the queen's head is obscured. I doubt if you'd get more than a few £s/$s for it.
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Posted 09/24/2015   2:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As GeoffHa has indicated.. condition is everything. Your stamp is from plate 6 and has a very heavy cancellation. The lack of margins on two sides and that cancellation means the stamp is space-filler quality and has very little value.
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Posted 09/26/2015   07:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sexyladi820 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, Thank you. Does anyone else have anymore info on it?
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Posted 09/26/2015   07:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jenny2U to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Two experts have told all there is to tell about your stamp

To recap:

Plate 6
Only two margins
Heavy cancel
Space filler

That's about all the info possible.
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Posted 09/26/2015   09:18 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jenny

That's one expert and me, actually!

Geoff
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Posted 09/26/2015   10:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jenny2U to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Geoff, I thought it best to avoid saying one expert and one other
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Posted 09/26/2015   1:39 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
How tactful - and the weight of expectation is now lifted!
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So why would an L column stamp be trimmed into the design at right? Seems like an unneeded extra step for the person who used it to mail a letter originally. Trimmed when taken from the letter maybe? It should have a nice wide margin at left since it's the leftmost stamp on that row...
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Posted 09/27/2015   5:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ldhaber to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Typically, post office window clerks prepared for the day's business by cutting up imperforate penny blacks and reds into strips of twelve, A to L.

This is a time saving measure when faced with an impatient queue of customers. Classically, the clerk would cut each row as a strip and many would then snip off each stamp, so there'd be a ready supply of individual stamps. Both margins almost always went. You do no usually see margins on stamps still affixed to covers from either the A or L rank. Thinking about the mechanics or using a scissor to separate a large number of stamps in the morning in this manner. It's a very mechanical affair.

The tendency of clerks to scissor off rows means that today, you very rarely see "vertical" blocks, but do frequently see horizontal strips of more than one.

In this stamp, most probably the clerk, using his scissor, snipped the row and then each stamp, in turn, the margin most probably went into the trash. (Please also remember that no one collected stamps in 1840) Highly unlikely it was removed after soaking.

Hope this helps,

Larry

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