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Belgium Occupation #n1-N9 On FDC?

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Posted 09/29/2015   09:19 am  Show Profile Check KRelyea's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add KRelyea to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Obviously this is a philatelic cover, but does anyone know if it is a First Day Cover? Does it have any value?

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Ken

Forgot pics 1st time;





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Posted 09/29/2015   10:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not sure I understand the question.
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Posted 09/29/2015   10:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Freibergs to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think we need a picture to go with the question.
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Posted 09/29/2015   11:22 am  Show Profile Check KRelyea's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add KRelyea to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, I guess I shouldn't post so early in AM, here are the pics;



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Posted 09/29/2015   11:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's an interesting question.

I'm never certain what people mean with First Day Cover, to be honest, but I suppose in this case one would have to know when the first overprinted stamps were issued. That might be a hard task for anyone but an expert in German or Belgian stamps.

Can you determine what the writing is on the cover? (Not the address but the 'scribbles.')
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Posted 09/29/2015   12:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ClassicalStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
According to Michel, the series first came out 1. October 1914. What does the postmark say?
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Posted 09/29/2015   1:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kuhli to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
looking at the postmarks on the 2 lower right stamps, they appear to have been added to the cover at a later time.
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kuhli, you're right.

Ken, time for your close-up.
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Posted 09/29/2015   1:46 pm  Show Profile Check KRelyea's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add KRelyea to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think the writing is significant but here's a close-up;





I actually have 2 of these items, the first one I showed was a cover "front" here is the other one;





This in a complete cover. I can't read the date on the postmarks but they are clearly in a European format.
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Posted 09/29/2015   3:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Without a legible postmark, we'll never know if it's a First Day Cover. The first is kind of a cool piece, though.
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Posted 09/29/2015   4:54 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Unlikely that a phiatelic - or other - cover wold have been sent from German-occupied Belgium to Paris in October 1914? Cancelled for favour at a later date, hence the obscured dates?
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Posted 09/29/2015   8:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TheArtfulHinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Unlikely that a phiatelic - or other - cover wold have been sent from German-occupied Belgium to Paris in October 1914


Good point. I'm not familiar with the postal history of either France or occupied Belgium during WWI, but such mail would have probably been unlikely at any point during the war. Again, I know nothing of the postal history of this time and place, but wouldn't there likely be censor marks or something if it actually went through the mail? I'm sure some mail could get through, but you'd think censors on both sides would be checking mail crossing over.
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Geoff makes a good point, though Brussels was a kind of "open city" in the earliest days of the war. The overprinted stamps came some weeks later and I can't say what life in Brussels was like at that time. (Something for me to research.)

The second cover with no address suggests that perhaps the first cover had no address, also, when the stamps were cancelled. I can't explain how already cancelled stamps ended up on the first cancel--those lower two right stamps--but perhaps even in the midst of war a stamp collector thought ahead to peacetime.
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Art, the postal history of WWI is absolutely fascinating. The Germans were most efficient with their mail service and there are records of their setting up their post office wagons within an hour of the march into Belgium. The English, too, were phenomenal in getting the mails back and forth. Soldiers were never far from home, in this sense.
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Here's a thread from another board that gives some insight: http://www.stampboards.net/viewtopi...f=10&t=59714
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Ken, to answer your question about value, I think that this is an interesting piece. One of the stamps is worth ten dollars or so and that's just by itself. The set of complete 1914 stamps only adds value.
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