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Re: Modern Fake Stamps Are Flooding The Market

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Posted 10/31/2015   10:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's time to get back to my Calf of Man postal history!
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Posted 10/31/2015   10:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
BOOKBNDRBOB-----lol
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Posted 10/31/2015   10:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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All 'experienced' collectors should understand and encourage this 'truth'.



Maybe collectors will find out the TRUTH
if they search through this old thread on Stampboards
started by The Researcher aka Shodan.

http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopi...914c823c660a



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Posted 10/31/2015   11:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Shodan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you ClassicalStamps.
I do get the points but the site has been there for years and to change everything on it....months.
A couple complained on the colors.
I like black background because the images stand out.
I always use black background behind stamps to make the perfs clear.
If it is hard to read there is the "no style" choice in your browser settings which converts the page to plain text with no background colors etc;.

I used to sell on the site directly. shopping carts are difficult to maintain and I have always had better results in sales on ebay.

As I stated before I specialize in archival materials. Also in materials I have acquired in research from the police evidence stock seized in the raids on the printer before the liquidation. Most of THAT was sold to others but I was lucky enough to acquire a portion from the St. Lucia and Tuvalu side which verified quantities produced.

One thing a lot of people do not seem to understand is that much of the original issues have finite quantities. Unlike U.S. and many countries where millions were made and tons are still available, most issues produced for these smaller countries ranged from 50,000 to 100,000 sets. Now, 30+ years later those stocks are dwindling and those dealers that did have hundreds or thousands are now seeing those numbers are going away.
Indeed they sell for small amounts but the fact that the topical collectors, car collectors and so forth have been buying these sets over the years for small amounts, dealer stocks are less.

The cause of the forgeries.
Not proven...yet, but because of the above factors and greed, the forgeries are being produced. Now what "looks" like a ton of them are out there indeed is just not the case. Over 50% are fakes. The scales are tipping toward a majority of available sets being those forgeries.

It has already happened with the Michael Jackson and Elvis Presley secondary reprints I have written about and which have been known to exist for years and noted in Stanley Gibbons. Around 50-60% of the sets offered are those secondary reprints. This includes imperfs, color proofs and "errors". All made AFTER Format shut down.

You now have the inverts shown at the beginning of the thread. 5-10,000 sets of them out there now. We are succeeding in stopping them before hundreds were sold.

One lot that has been stopped from sale just this month contains 10,000 normal sets of MJ and 10,000 sets of normal EP stamps. They would have been coming onto the market through ebay next month if we (yes we) had not alerted and got the lot withdrawn among many others.

Until the forgers are stopped entirely this will continue with possibly hundreds of different issues. I am the discoverer. You are the army that can help to stop them before it is too late.
It does not matter that I sell stamps. Most of the issues I do not even have to sell! And if I do it is much more advanced than normal issues and imperfs and new trumped up "errors"!

Many sets in jeopardy are indeed high valued. Try Guyana Orchids. Try Lesotho Birds. On and on. The LOTW issues are just a beginning. Easy to forge and because "nobody cares", easy to flood onto the market undetected. Until it is too late......

Oh, and the above three posters are obvious plants from the forum from Real intelligent bunch....
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Posted 10/31/2015   11:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Until the forgers are stopped entirely this will continue with possibly hundreds of different issues.
I am the discoverer. You are the army that can help to stop them before it is too late.



OMG the Martians are coming.Stamp collectors unite,
only we can save the world from those evil forgers.
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Posted 10/31/2015   11:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Shodan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Think I will get your leaders dirt back up to #1 on the search engines again

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Edited by Shodan - 10/31/2015 11:36 am
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Posted 10/31/2015   11:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Think I will get your leaders dirt back up to #1 on the search engines again



Go ahead, make my day.
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Posted 10/31/2015   11:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Shodan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Your comments really show what kind of "Pillar of the Community" you are. In this thread...your comments are useless to everyone. Why not go back. Oh, that's right...a no life

Busy making mail then another page coming up. Let's see Nevis trains 3rd series imperfs. Forged.....
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Edited by Shodan - 10/31/2015 11:59 am
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Posted 10/31/2015   12:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Your comments really show what kind of "Pillar of the Community" you are. In this thread...your comments are useless to everyone. Why not go back. Oh, that's right...a no life



Now, now. Don't loose your temper.

Yes I criticized some of the crap you wrote about but
I never attacked you personally.

For a guy that just barged in here yesterday you've
got a lot of nerve telling me to go anywhere.




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Posted 10/31/2015   12:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jenny2U to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
When you're on a campaign, attacking others is probably not the best way to get your point across
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Posted 10/31/2015   1:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Shodan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Then act civilized.
This is a serious problem for many many people and for you to ridicule me and put things in a light that it is not serious and I am not to be heard is childish and does not help anybody.

This problem is real and it is serious.

It is not about me, so leave me and any history about the threads involving that forum out of it.

This is about what is happening right now and people need to be warned so they are not ripped off. Already 100's if not thousands have been already.

Yes my research is controversial and it is also real. What the printers and stamp agencies and even Stanley Gibbons has done to us as a whole has broken every ethical rule there is in the hobby.

But that is other stories.

This thread is supposed to help get the word out on these forgeries.
Therefore...let's keep it at that ok?
Comments on what to do, how you are helping, from victims of this to issues other than what is being documented on my site are welcome here.
Put downs, Making light of it because you don't collect or like the issues involved are not welcome here. So can we please keep it at that level? Look at the hit counter. People want to know.

My apology for getting mad but blocking this subject and diverting the thread off track is not respectable to me or anyone else that this effects. Getting this known is a constant battle. For your information we know who the forgers are but at this point cannot get to them because tangible hard evidence is needed to get the authorities involved.
Perhaps someone out there has it.....
I can tell you they are a very powerful force and have been here for decades.
So...work with us...not against us.
I did not have the article in the Exporter written. Powerful British Stamp dealers did so understand....In this.....I am NOT alone.
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Edited by Shodan - 10/31/2015 1:05 pm
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Posted 10/31/2015   3:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pagoda to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Shodan,

you mentioned earlier that the items were being sold by duped Latvian sellers, too much of a coincidence that most of the " Illegals " were also produced and sold in Latvia,

Pagoda
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Posted 10/31/2015   3:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Shodan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Pagoda
Indeed there may be connections. The main one on ebay got the forgeries from a German auction though. I know the forgeries were not produced in Latvia.

I have verbal evidence where and who printed them. It is not enough to convict. Unless my source takes action themselves the criminals will go scott free. Able to carry on with this wickedness.
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Posted 10/31/2015   4:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dw9540 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Shodan, can you print this forum out and take a picture of yourself holding it?
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Posted 10/31/2015   4:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Shodan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is kind of record breaking on views....hehe

I am working on the Nevis trains 3rd series imperforate forgeries page. Discovered there are two types of gum used. One is dangerously close to the original gum.

I got them in a lot on ebay along with 8 other sets of trains for $6.00 winning bid. I lost on my first attempt to acquire a similar lot. It went for around $12.00.

Sadly (as I knew they were) ALL of the sets are fakes. Bad news for train collectors. Here is a pic I just made of the Nevis forgery set.




Note the 60c is an "error". Do you see what it is?
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