Re: Modern Fake Stamps Are Flooding The Market

Very well stated Jenny, and the reason why the core agenda of this thread is objectionable.

Must be a typo, I don't think you mean ME Jenny. I certainly don't sell them on ebay!

Actually I misread your post Jenny. I think you meant "you" in a generic sense. I just boarded an airplane .

And yes, Clive Feigenbaum was involved in Format. I don't have the information handy, but he was either a director or part owner.

BeeSee you're much too respected to ever get involved in selling these "stamps"! I was of course referring to Shodan, who as a seller of these so-called errors, is complaining about fakes. And what wonderful irony that he is complaining about fakes of fabricated errors

As you know, Feigenbaum had a lifelong career of philatelic scandals. More information about him is available from the Wikipedia link I posted.

Great summary Jenny.

And the railroading crew from that other forum rears it's ugly head again.
As stated on the other forum.
YOU ARE IGNORED!

Lets see...Jenny2U with her junk pile on the Stamp Cabinet thread...real authority there. Spends all her time trying to find anything possible to railroad this thread.

Shermae with the half penny avatar of a dino stamp always jumping in to back up. Typical low mentality railroad tactics.

Could not do it alone so now bring in others from "the crew" of which we can see spends more time in forums than a person has time to do any kind of research whatsoever. Already admits to being on "the other side".

It is impossible for intelligent people to not see what they are and what they are doing which is totally unrespectable to the collecting community as a whole.

The typical LOTW Tuvalu Scandal article which was and is the only article your "leader" flaunts as all knowing of everything Format ever did because none of you have even an iota of what happened then nor is happening now because you are amateur forum dwellers that would rather spend your life sitting in forums working for a scam artist to peddle inferior products and stop real discoveries that will effect the stamp community for ever. Possibly because it effects and may uncover something you yourselves are involved in.

Continue to railroad this thread and I will continue to post what is being forged repeatedly over your jibberish childish antics until you get sick of posting because your amateur statements have nothing to do with this thread.

You start the attacks. I finish them. That is why I got the proud to be "banned for life" position on your other forum because you and your leader could not handle it because you have nothing to back up your rantings and absolutely "no proof" in your statements only basing on your little article and your Wikipedia
thing (of which I made major changes to I might add) which only scratches the surface of the history of Format and the stamps produced and who was involved.

this took me 15 minutes to think and write.

What you just did took you several days to put together. Now why not get back to your little meaningless dribbles somewhere else and get out of this thread if you have nothing to contribute to the problem that is happening and the subject of this thread.

I am not the subject of this thread.
Format other than the original stamps that are being forged has nothing to do with this thread.
Clive Feigenbaum has nothing to do with this thread.
The way my site looks has nothing to do with this thread.
what I sell which is very little has nothing to do with this thread.
And your leaders bible piece on the Tuvalu Scandal has nothing to do with this thread!
Got it???
Of course not. Because you are walking around with blind eyes that do not see.....

Do we really need this garbage here ?

We don't but it is amusing. My avatar represents the future of this discussion.

Guess I am missing the value of this thread. I think in this case the messenger is the issue, not the message. I do not understand the value of trying to get others to buy into a cause while insulting them.

If I were to make a list of things to do if I wanted others to understand a potential issue it might look like this;

- Start a well designed web site outlining the issue. I would make sure it is accessible and designed for the largest amount of browsers and devices so I could maximize who I reach. I would avoid using bright, contrasting colored fonts that are often disliked and hard to read. I would try to implement something that the majority of users liked, not what I thought looked good. And I would understand that telling others to disable 'styles' does not work in many browsers.

- I would not come anywhere close to dealing in or profiting in anything related to the cause since it gives the appearance of conflict of interest.

- I would be pleasant and would not alienate anyone. If issues or attacks arise, I would avoid being defensive and try everything to avoid it turning into a flame-fest.

But that is just me, I guess there are alternative ways to convince others. Time will judge how effective this thread will be, but I agree it isn't looking too promising.
Don

I'll take my junk pile against your junk pile any day of the week You are as phony as the stamps you sell. At least now you've been exposed for all to see.


You are the one who insists you are selling quality junk because it was printed by Format.


Not with this thread perhaps, but he did order the deliberate printing of the junk errors you sell.

Don, please understand that this is a non-issue. Copious amounts of stamp errors were ordered by a philatelic con artist to fleece collectors. A fraud case was initiated about errors on Tuvalu stamps in which the con artist "argued that he had contractual permission to produce the varieties". These have never been legitimate postage stamps, so perhaps a better issue might be to educate collectors about the origins of these "stamps". Complaining about fakes of these issues is too laughable to even comment further.

Correct Jenny, and he won. It was proven the Tuvalu Prime Minister at the time DID sign such an agreement in the early 1980's. It turned out to be the end of Tuvalu's philatelic revenue forever.

Are you kidding us John (Shodan)? Jenny2u posts 2 or 3 constructive and interesting comments on a thread, and that is "railroading"? Yikes.

To me, the most amusing aspect of this thread is the number of really smart people that are breaking one of the Internet Ten Commandments : Don't feed the trolls.

That's OK BeeSee. It's been well noted that when the facts are against him, his only recourse is to attack.